Let me first begin by saying that I want to be gracious with people on this topic because for many years I was committed to the fallacy of moralizing, Americanism, Christian activism and the need to "reclaim America". I even pulled one of my own books which was published in 2005. I have pulled several Worldview Weekend DVDs that promoted the reconstructionism or "reclaiming America" message. I have asked my radio and television audience to forgive me if my example caused them to take their focus off our ultimate calling which is the proclamation of the gospel.
I called my friend Kirk Cameron and left him a voice mail in the early summer of 2011 to warn him of the Americanism trap that had ensnared me for a time and I wanted him to learn from my mistakes. If Kirk had returned my call I would have shared some of the information contained in this article concerning America's founding. This article and movie grieves me because Kirk has been a friend for several years and has stayed in my home and traveled and spoken for many Worldview Weekends. In addition to asking him to privately examine this evidence with me, I also invited him to be a guest on my radio program for February 27, 2012 to discuss his film and his appearance on the TV program of Mormon Glenn Beck to discuss his Christian film; but that did not take place.
Therefore, even at the risk up upsetting friends, I must now turn my attention to warning the church of the trap of uniting the things of God with the ungodly things of this world and believing that God will bless our nation when such actions will only hasten God's judgment on our land.
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In addition, the trailer of the film reveals an interview with Dr. Os Guinness one of the signers of Evangelicals and Catholics together. Reports are that David Barton was also interviewed for this film. This is troubling as David Barton has declared that Mormon Glenn Beck can wear the title Mormon and be a Christian.
Conclusion:
Christians seeking to "reclaim America" or "get back to the founding fathers" will not invite God's blessing by holding up men, institutions, traditions, and symbols that are not honorable to God. Christians will not invite God's favor but God's judgment when they disobey His Word and mix pagan beliefs, a pagan statue, and worldly symbolism with our worship and service to Him. Such activities regardless of how well intentioned is a monumental mistake.
Tuesday, March 6, 2012
Brannon Howse on Kirk Cameron's Monumental
Here is Brannon Howse with the less eccumenical evangelical-fundamentalist perspective on Kirk Cameron's Christian America project. A taste:
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This is humorous to me, because whether one believes that Christianity is a "moral religion" (in line with Mormonism)as to family values, and a "check for the State", (to maintain God's values) or Christianity is a supernatural religion that suggests "other worldly" ways, that distinctifies itself from the State, OR Christianity can be anything in between....America allows for them all. So, whey is Brian feeling a need to "warn others" as to what "true Christianity is"!
corrction; not Brian but Brannon!
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Again, the movie, Melancholia, is appropriate to this post--same as last post was.
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Who the gosh goldarn is Brannon Howse, and why should we give a good goddam what he thinks?
Respectfully submitted, of course. His website makes him look like a weirdo.
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/brannon-howse/
"In addition, the trailer of the film reveals an interview with Dr. Os Guinness one of the signers of Evangelicals and Catholics together. Reports are that David Barton was also interviewed for this film. This is troubling as David Barton has declared that Mormon Glenn Beck can wear the title Mormon and be a Christian."
I'm not an evangelical or even a Protestant, but I do know that Os Guinness is very respected in those circle and is probably not worried about Brannon Howse's chain of guilt by association here.
This blog gets really weird sometimes. Lie down with the dogs, wake up with fleas.
Tom,
Brannon is a friend of Kirk Cameron's and part of his "network" of Worldview types. I just put his ideas out there to represent *that* perspective. The Left Behind types probably represent what, 10% of the population?
Or perhaps I should say "was" a friend. Barton was part of Howse's "Worldview" network until Howse changed his mind on Americanism.
Glenn Beck, whatever one thinks of him, has the power to promote and sell. Among that crowd, Americanism sells and Beck helps to sell it.
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Participants at this site do not deserve to be compared to dogs and fleas.
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The author of any blog has a responsibility to the readers to edit out of line comments.
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Feel free to edit or delete this post after you have read it.
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"Ironically, the Masons worship Baal.
"Let's be very clear; this statue was built by people that had no convictions about having it erected, funded, and dedicated even in part by men that served Satan.
"Conclusion: Christians seeking to "reclaim America" or "get back to the founding fathers" will not invite God's blessing by holding up men, institutions, traditions, and symbols that are not honorable to God. Christians will not invite God's favor but God's judgment when they disobey His Word and mix pagan beliefs, a pagan statue, and worldly symbolism with our worship and service to Him. Such activities regardless of how well intentioned is a monumental mistake."
During the American revolution and preceding "the founding" how many were Masons? George Washington to start with. And pagan beliefs? Cicero? The Greeks and Romans upon which so much was borrowed during the founding and formation of the nation?
I assume that everybody realizes that he's not just railing against a monument but is railing against the founding itself - the late 18th century founding.
His call for reassessment and his rejection of the "'reclaiming America' message" is relevant to the ongoing discussion of whether this is a Christian nation, at least as a dissenting view from the Christian nation adherents, and he appears to be advancing a notion of a separation between Church and state. And, he appears to be in the mix with other significant players in the "taking our country back" mix.
I'm not at all familiar with this guy, but as paranoid conspiracy theorists go, I'd assume he has as much import as Beck. Maybe they'll cancel each other out. :)
Well, Jon, it would have been helpful to learn Brannon is an ex-friend of Kirk Cameron's from the OP.
This rates almost as important as Snooki being pregnant, but thx for the update.
Jon, Don't you think there is a difference between those that are Christian Nationalists (believe the basis of our nation is "the Bible) and those that want to reclaim Constitutional government? Constitutionalists would want to return to the "original" arguments, and for reasons, I suppose to "reclaim" what they think is lost....but it doesn't have to do with religious thinking, but the proper functioning of government.
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