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Jesus is special. Even...<i>Our Founding Truth said...<br /><br />Jesus is special. Even part of a trinity, although not a Trinity."""<br /><br />That doesn't make. Jesus called Himself God <br />The jews said He called Himself God. And the new testament writers say he was god. <br /><br /><br />""Sez you. But this is how Jesus is the scriptural "Son of God" without being God Himself.""<br /><br />It's like you didn't read the scripture. The son of God appellation means God. </i><br /><br /><br />So you say. There are millions of other Protestants who disagreed. The historian cannot say who is correct.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-90199223842159364452019-06-20T21:12:26.007-06:002019-06-20T21:12:26.007-06:00No Martha isn't on the record saying GW was a ...<br />No Martha isn't on the record saying GW was a Christian"""<br /><br />Look it up. I'm sure she did.<br /><br /><br />"Then while President, two Anglican<br /> authorities, one of whom was GW's own minister claimed he didn't commune.""<br /><br />Hutson and Thompson already answered why gw did that.<br /><br /><br />Likewise the supposed "prayer book" of explicitly Christian prayers has turned out to be a phony."""<br /><br />Where is the PROOF<br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-7205830101522698932019-06-20T21:08:05.985-06:002019-06-20T21:08:05.985-06:00Jesus is special. Even part of a trinity, although...<br />Jesus is special. Even part of a trinity, although not a Trinity."""<br /><br />That doesn't make. Jesus called Himself God <br />The jews said He called Himself God. And the new testament writers say he was god. <br /><br /><br />""Sez you. But this is how Jesus is the scriptural "Son of God" without being God Himself.""<br /><br />It's like you didn't read the scripture. The son of God appellation means God. That is precisely why Jesus used it when the jews made their accusation. <br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-33865422808613305452019-06-20T05:28:19.420-06:002019-06-20T05:28:19.420-06:00Our Founding Truth said...
Channings philosophy is...<i>Our Founding Truth said...<br />Channings philosophy is whacked out. If Christ was more than a man, He had to be divine. If He wasn't divine, He could only be a man. You either have the divine nature or u don't. </i><br /><br />Sez you. But this is how Jesus is the scriptural "Son of God" without being God Himself.<br /><br />Jesus is special. Even part of a trinity, although not a Trinity.<br /><br />Hey, I'm not a unitarian. I have no dog in this fight. I'm just arguing their arguments, and they're valid.<br /><br />Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-45978349675933664312019-06-20T04:44:52.150-06:002019-06-20T04:44:52.150-06:00There is a further definitional problem with refer...There is a further definitional problem with reference to the term "divinity." Arians, Socinians, and Trinitarians all believe Jesus uniquely divinely connected to God, making Jesus "divine" in a sense.<br /><br />It has to do with nature of divinity. With Socinians it's a divine mission as Messiah. Jesus = 100% human, 0% divine in His nature. With Trinitarians Jesus = %100 God. With Arians, Jesus is divine in His nature, but created by and subordinate to the Father. It's a divine nature, but without being fully God. (Almost like God's demigod Son.)Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-84520786169389926782019-06-20T04:36:22.056-06:002019-06-20T04:36:22.056-06:00No Martha isn't on the record saying GW was a ...No Martha isn't on the record saying GW was a Christian. Their correspondence was burned. Rather his adopted daughter (who I think was Martha's granddaughter) said he was responding to skeptical "inquiries" about his faith. But she also noted in that letter that while Martha communed GW didn't! And this referred to the time period before he was President.<br /><br />Then while President, two Anglican authorities, one of whom was GW's own minister claimed he didn't commune. <br /><br />So IF GW did, at one time in his life, take communion, the real issue is he systematically avoided it later. <br /><br />Likewise the supposed "prayer book" of explicitly Christian prayers has turned out to be a phony.Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-48650635464610512712019-06-19T17:33:50.815-06:002019-06-19T17:33:50.815-06:00I will say this about GW. If he did take communion...I will say this about GW. If he did take communion, he took it many times and he knew what it meant.<br /><br />But it's a glaring inconsistency to never mention your faith in Christ after affirming that faith in an ordinance Christ started. <br /><br />If he wrote those prayers as a kid, why didn't he write them as an adult? Didn't Martha say he was a Christian? And she was an evangelical and lived with him.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-52227667124228111832019-06-19T17:01:15.633-06:002019-06-19T17:01:15.633-06:00Channings philosophy is whacked out. If Christ was...Channings philosophy is whacked out. If Christ was more than a man, He had to be divine. If He wasn't divine, He could only be a man. You either have the divine nature or u don't. <br /><br />A French reformer in the 17th c. wrote a book destroying arianism. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-13200423807487279152019-06-19T16:54:29.470-06:002019-06-19T16:54:29.470-06:00We both agreed in our late conference, that a majo...We both agreed in our late conference, that a majority of our brethren believe, that Jesus Christ is more than man, that he existed before the world, that he literally came from heaven to save our race, that he sustains other offices than those of a teacher and witness to the truth, and that he still acts for our benefit, and is our intercessor with the Father. This we agreed to be the prevalent sentiment of our brethren." <br /><br /><br />William Ellery Channing, 1815.<br /><br />Son of God = more than man, who he existed before the world, literally came from heaven to save our race [IOW the Redeemer--TVD], still acts for our benefit, and is our intercessor with the Father"""""<br /><br /><br />That's not what John 10 says. The jews said Christ claimed to be God and Paul and Zechariah in the o.t. says they are equal and Luke says the Holy spirit is God and equal. Channing was not a Christian. And he wasn't unitarian either. His own words condemn him. He was an Arian. Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-91482227876656203462019-06-19T16:45:29.549-06:002019-06-19T16:45:29.549-06:00And certainly Montesquieu, Locke and Newton could ...And certainly Montesquieu, Locke and Newton could not pass this test as well"""<br /><br /><br />Locke and Newton were unitarians. Montesquieu is a different story. He liked Calvin and i read somewhere he was to take communion at a Catholic church <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6216043833617789282019-06-19T16:42:44.345-06:002019-06-19T16:42:44.345-06:00This is much more restrictive than even G. Frazer&...This is much more restrictive than even G. Frazer's definition. It's beyond simply "orthodox Trinitarian." I doubt you get a majority of the late 18th Cen. American population who believe in this. You certainly don't get it in the first five Presidents, J. Wilson, G. Morris, A. Hamilton, until perhaps after his son died in a duel. I don't think the Trinitarian B. Rush could pass this test. I don't even think the orthodox Trinitarian John Quincy Adams could pass this.<br /><br />And certainly Montesquieu, Locke and Newton could not pass this test as well."""<br /><br />I doubt it's more restrictive than Frazer's. He teaches at Dr. MacArthur's seminary. I doubt it's beyond the orthodox Trinitarian view because that's what it's always been. Some even add others.<br /><br />Maybe it was Hutson who said in 1776, the vast majority was orthodox. AH was trinitarian in his youth.<br /><br />The evidence is against GW, JW, GM and JM. There's not even a verbal account of GW or any of them, claiming Christ as their Lord and savior. <br /><br />As to BR, he clearly rejected biblical inerrancy; actually rejecting Christ's own words about hell.<br /><br />JQA could have been a Christian. <br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-36589666443974417992019-06-19T15:48:34.396-06:002019-06-19T15:48:34.396-06:00Christ destroys the basis of unitarianism. Christ ...<i>Christ destroys the basis of unitarianism. Christ directly refutes the thesis of barretts 100 arguments link, which says the bible says Christ and the Father are distinct persons saying "Jesus claimed to be the "Son of God,"<br /><br />However, in the text above, Jesus uses "Son of God" as God Himself, not just a human.</i><br /><br />Son of God ≠ God Himself<br /><br /><i>"The word UNITARIANISM, as denoting this opposition to Trinitarianism, undoubtedly expresses the character of a considerable part of the ministers of this town and its vicinity, and the commonwealth...We both agreed in our late conference, that a majority of our brethren believe, that <b>Jesus Christ is more than man, that he existed before the world</b>, that he literally came from heaven to save our race, that he sustains other offices than those of a teacher and witness to the truth, and that he still acts for our benefit, and is our intercessor with the Father. This we agreed to be the prevalent sentiment of our brethren." </i><br /><br /><br />William Ellery Channing, 1815.<br /><br />Son of God = more than man, who he existed before the world, literally came from heaven to save our race [IOW the Redeemer--TVD], still acts for our benefit, and is our intercessor with the Father<br /><br /><br />And I say to Gregg Frazer, this is far more Christian than any "theistic rationalism" covers. The unitarians cannot be plunked under that umbrella term along with Jefferson without a great loss of precision and clarity.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-32198692009611779252019-06-19T15:40:47.959-06:002019-06-19T15:40:47.959-06:00Blogger Jonathan Rowe said...
"Good quote. Pr...<i>Blogger Jonathan Rowe said...<br />"Good quote. Price was English. I wonder if the American unitarians would concede they weren't Christians. ..."<br /><br />Of course they wouldn't. Price the Arian didn't. He presented his theology under the auspices of Christianity. He did recognize that the Athanasian theologians didn't recognize unitarians as Christians and they prevailed in some sense in getting their "commonly received ideas of Christianity" (which he was trying to change) recognized as such.</i><br /><br /><br />Yes, and as historians, we see that the Protestant Reformation put ALL the commonly received ideas of Christianity up for grabs. John Calvin denied the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist [as does our friend Our Founding Truth and I imagine Gregg Frazer].<br /><br />Heretics, but who are we to say which??Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-12253054935488487952019-06-19T15:15:36.296-06:002019-06-19T15:15:36.296-06:00"It's the former. No one can be saved who..."It's the former. No one can be saved who is not born again by the Spirit of God [which a person will know], and rejects biblical inerrancy, and the tri-unity of the godhead, and the deity and equality of the Son, and the vicarious atonement for sin. Otherwise, there is no salvation because the words of the bible have no meaning and can be twisted into anything, as do the unitarians."<br /><br />This is much more restrictive than even G. Frazer's definition. It's beyond simply "orthodox Trinitarian." I doubt you get a majority of the late 18th Cen. American population who believe in this. You certainly don't get it in the first five Presidents, J. Wilson, G. Morris, A. Hamilton, until perhaps after his son died in a duel. I don't think the Trinitarian B. Rush could pass this test. I don't even think the orthodox Trinitarian John Quincy Adams could pass this.<br /><br />And certainly Montesquieu, Locke and Newton could not pass this test as well. Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-36126967988117888322019-06-19T14:58:59.871-06:002019-06-19T14:58:59.871-06:00OFT: On21st biblical grounds if they are are wrong...OFT: On21st biblical grounds if they are are wrong on the nature of the Godhead does that mean they aren't entitled to the label "Christian" or are they "Christians" who happen to be wrong on a particular doctrine?""""<br /><br />It's the former. No one can be saved who is not born again by the Spirit of God [which a person will know], and rejects biblical inerrancy, and the tri-unity of the godhead, and the deity and equality of the Son, and the vicarious atonement for sin. Otherwise, there is no salvation because the words of the bible have no meaning and can be twisted into anything, as do the unitarians.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-83788904458852184592019-06-19T13:46:14.292-06:002019-06-19T13:46:14.292-06:00OFT: On biblical grounds if they are are wrong on ...OFT: On biblical grounds if they are are wrong on the nature of the Godhead does that mean they aren't entitled to the label "Christian" or are they "Christians" who happen to be wrong on a particular doctrine?Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-63245267945265345552019-06-19T12:38:42.125-06:002019-06-19T12:38:42.125-06:0033 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good wo...33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” <br />34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? <br />35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken<br />36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?""""<br /><br />Christ destroys the basis of unitarianism. Christ directly refutes the thesis of barretts 100 arguments link, which says the bible says Christ and the Father are distinct persons saying "Jesus claimed to be the "Son of God,"<br /><br />However, in the text above, Jesus uses "Son of God" as God Himself, not just a human. They started stoning the Lord because He said, ""I and the Father are one.”"<br />That set them off because they knew He wasn't talking about personhood; God being a Spirit. They knew Jesus was talking about essence and nature. <br /><br />Christ is God the Son as distinct from God the Father, but One God. Thus, the tri-unity of the Godhead. <br /><br />So much for barretts arguments, refuted by Christ Himself.<br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6032995884940276692019-06-19T11:02:07.382-06:002019-06-19T11:02:07.382-06:00On this side of eternity you have no way of tellin...On this side of eternity you have no way of telling who is saved. If you have that authority, I do too. And I say Mormons and Unitarians are Christians. All good people are Christians. Everyone is a Christian whether they know it or not."""<br /><br />Of course i do. I know joseph stalin and Adolph Hitler are in hell as is many others.<br />You don't have that authority, neither do the others; rejecring the clear doctrines of the bible. Even the jews said Christ claimed to be God.<br /><br /><i>So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are ithe Christ, tell us plainly.” <br />25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, <br />26 but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. <br />27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. <br />28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. <br />29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand. <br />30 I and the Father are one.”<br />31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. <br />32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” <br />33 <b>The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God</b>.” <br />34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? <br />35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken<br />36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? [Christ saying the son of means, God]<br />37 If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; <br />38 but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.” <br />39 Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands</i>.<br /><br />John 10:24-39<br /><br />Paul, being a direct representative of God:<br /><br /><i>13 But Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much evil he has done to your saints at Jerusalem. <br />14 And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on your name.” <br />15 <b>But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine</b> to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel. <br />16 For I will show him how much he must suffer for the sake of my name</i>.” <br /><br />Acts 9<br /><br />And Paul claims Christ is God:<br /><br /><i>5 Let this mind be in you which was also in <b>Christ Jesus, <br />6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God</b>, <br />7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. <br />8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross</i>.<br /><br />Phil 2:5-8<br /><br />You and ones u mentioned deny this fact of Christ, therefore, do not deceive yourself or other people and do what Jesus says:<br /><br />"Repent and believe"<br /><br />Mark 2:15.<br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-27344280950159446602019-06-19T10:08:55.381-06:002019-06-19T10:08:55.381-06:00"Good quote. Price was English. I wonder if t..."Good quote. Price was English. I wonder if the American unitarians would concede they weren't Christians. ..."<br /><br />Of course they wouldn't. Price the Arian didn't. He presented his theology under the auspices of Christianity. He did recognize that the Athanasian theologians didn't recognize unitarians as Christians and they prevailed in some sense in getting their "commonly received ideas of Christianity" (which he was trying to change) recognized as such. Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-61973422488741342842019-06-19T06:57:42.258-06:002019-06-19T06:57:42.258-06:00"They do have the authority as they are repre..."They do have the authority as they are representatives of christ and repeat the scriptures. I have the same suthority, so does Frazer if he's saved."<br /><br />On this side of eternity you have no way of telling who is saved. If you have that authority, I do too. And I say Mormons and Unitarians are Christians. All good people are Christians. Everyone is a Christian whether they know it or not. Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-11787162615328711302019-06-18T19:43:00.929-06:002019-06-18T19:43:00.929-06:00From Richard Price:
"Montesquieu probably wa...<i>From Richard Price:<br /><br />"Montesquieu probably was not a Christian. Newton and Locke were not Trinitarians and therefore not Christians according to the commonly received ideas of Christianity. Would the United States, for this reason, deny such men, were they living, all places of trust and power among them?"<br /><br />Emphasis mine. It's ironic that this quotation doesn't (from what I recall) appear in his book. This quotation is his thesis.</i><br /><br /><br />Good quote. Price was English. I wonder if the American unitarians would concede they weren't Christians. I don't think so. For instance, Samuel Barrett used the Bible as his authority.<br /><br />https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/100-scriptural-arguments-for-the-unitarian-faith<br /><br /><br />As for the American trinitarians, they sat cheek-by-jowl with unitarians in the New England churches [albeit uncomfortably]. For historical purposes, they remained churchmates, even if they did eventually split in the 1800s.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-48557398318293711212019-06-18T18:28:15.267-06:002019-06-18T18:28:15.267-06:00Martin Luther nor John Calvin are empowered to dra...Martin Luther nor John Calvin are empowered to draw a line and say "this far and no farther."""<br /><br />They do have the authority as they are representatives of christ and repeat the scriptures. I have the same suthority, so does Frazer if he's saved.<br /><br /><br />The interesting thing is that outside some clergy, the Founding era itself had little controversy about who was and wasn't Christian."""<br /><br />Maybe not. Check the pamphlets. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Our Founding Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01072993191810565535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5645702651288829062019-06-18T06:02:36.690-06:002019-06-18T06:02:36.690-06:00I wouldn't put it all on Frazer. I think he de...I wouldn't put it all on Frazer. I think he describe an accurate mindset among late 18 Cen. theologians. From Richard Price:<br /><br />"Montesquieu probably was not a Christian. Newton and Locke were not Trinitarians and therefore not Christians according to the <b>commonly received ideas of Christianity.</b> Would the United States, for this reason, deny such men, were they living, all places of trust and power among them?"<br /><br />Emphasis mine. It's ironic that this quotation doesn't (from what I recall) appear in his book. This quotation is his thesis. Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.com