<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116</id><updated>2012-02-02T06:49:52.711-07:00</updated><category term='Winpisinger&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Guest Bloggers'/><category term='Tubbs&apos; Posts'/><category term='Kowalski&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Makovi&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Miettinen&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Naum&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Van Dyke&apos;s posts'/><category term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><category term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Soller&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Hoisington&apos;s Posts'/><category term='Pappas&apos; Posts'/><category term='Hochberg&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>American Creation</title><subtitle type='html'>A group blog to promote discussion, debate and insight into the history, particularly religious, of America's founding.  Any observations, questions, or comments relating to the blog's theme are welcomed.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>1707</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2916241053001126366</id><published>2012-01-30T20:08:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-30T20:08:28.290-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Gregg Frazer's Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2012/01/forthcoming-books-i-would-like-to-read.html"&gt;As John Fea noted&lt;/a&gt;, Dr. Gregg Frazer &lt;a href="http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/frarel.html"&gt;has a new book coming out&lt;/a&gt;, published by University Press of Kansas.  It is based on his much discussed PhD thesis.  I plan to much discuss the book when it comes out.  And, cross your fingers, I may be involved in a very cool public event on this book in late spring/early summer.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2916241053001126366?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2916241053001126366/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2916241053001126366&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2916241053001126366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2916241053001126366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/gregg-frazers-book.html' title='Gregg Frazer&apos;s Book'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2812613671796162062</id><published>2012-01-26T18:09:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T18:10:13.591-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Gary Cass Contradicts Himself</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/01/26/gary-cass-contradicts-himself/"&gt;Ed Brayton makes a point&lt;/a&gt; I/we have been hammering for years.  If you want to claim Mormons aren't Christians because they deny the Trinity/gospel of grace as Cass does, fine.  Just don't then claim America's Founders as "Christians."  Certainly NOT the Declaration of Independence whose three principle authors were theological unitarians.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2812613671796162062?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2812613671796162062/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2812613671796162062&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2812613671796162062'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2812613671796162062'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/gary-cass-contradicts-himself.html' title='Gary Cass Contradicts Himself'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2866255986962613805</id><published>2012-01-22T07:57:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-22T07:57:14.219-07:00</updated><title type='text'>James Wilson &amp; the Scottish Enlightenment</title><content type='html'>Keeping with our James Wilson theme, I just found this what looks to be very cool article &lt;a href="http://www.law.upenn.edu/cf/faculty/wewald/workingpapers/12UPaJConstL1053(2010).pdf"&gt;from U. Penn. on James Wilson.&lt;/a&gt;  I haven't had a chance to read it yet.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2866255986962613805?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2866255986962613805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2866255986962613805&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2866255986962613805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2866255986962613805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/james-wilson-scottish-enlightenment.html' title='James Wilson &amp; the Scottish Enlightenment'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6954664889403620051</id><published>2012-01-21T21:36:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-21T22:07:47.050-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pappas&apos; Posts'/><title type='text'>James Wilson - Philosopher Jurist</title><content type='html'>James Wilson’s philosophy of law and nature shows an powerful intellect at work as is evident from the &lt;a href="http://www.constitution.org/jwilson/jwilson1.htm"&gt;published lectures&lt;/a&gt;. While ethics, political philosophy, and law are his main focus, he has an extensive discussion of epistemology. It’s clear that he assumes the reader knows his Locke, Hume, and Reid. Here’s a sample of his complex thought:&lt;blockquote&gt;Having thus stated the question ― what is the efficient cause of moral obligation? ― I give it this answer ― the will of God. This is the supreme law.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Such forceful exposition and clarity could leave little doubt of Wilson’s conviction. However, a few sentences later he says:&lt;blockquote&gt;If I am asked ― why do you obey the will of God? I answer ― because it is my duty so to do. If I am asked again ― how do you know this to be your duty? I answer again ― because I am told so by my moral sense or conscience. If I am asked a third time ― how do you know that you ought to do that, of which your conscience enjoins the performance? I can only say, I &lt;i&gt;feel&lt;/i&gt; that such is my duty.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh, now it’s just a &lt;i&gt;feeling&lt;/i&gt;! (Emphasis his.) Perhaps others feel otherwise? Wilson doesn’t go there. Wilson is confident that the “first principles of morals, into which all moral argumentation may be resolved, are discovered in a manner more analogous to the perceptions of sense than to the conclusions of reasoning.” “... right and wrong are ultimately perceived by the moral sense, yet reason assists its operations ...” He continues to explain that our fundamental knowledge of moral law is innate:&lt;blockquote&gt;That law, which God has made for man in his present state; that law, which is communicated to us by reason and conscience, the divine monitors within us, and by the sacred oracles, the divine monitors without us. ... As promulgated by reason and the moral sense, it has been called natural; as promulgated by the holy scriptures, it has been called revealed law. ... But it should always be remembered, that this law, natural or revealed, made for men or for nations, flows from the same divine source: it is the law of God. ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nature has implanted in man the desire of his own happiness; she has inspired him with many tender affections towards others, especially in the near relations of life; she has endowed him with intellectual and with active powers; she has furnished him with a natural impulse to exercise his powers for his own happiness, and the happiness of those, for whom he entertains such tender affections. If all this be true, the undeniable consequence is, that he has a right to exert those powers for the accomplishment of those purposes, in such a manner, and upon such objects, as his inclination and judgment shall direct; provided he does no injury to others; and provided some publick interests do not demand his labours. This right is natural liberty. Every man has a sense of this right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If it is implanted in us does everyone just know what is right? Locke would argue that there is no universal innate knowledge as is evident from different cultures and degrees of civilization. Wilson says:&lt;blockquote&gt;In the most uninformed savages, we find the communes notitiæ, the common notions and practical principles of virtue, though the application of them is often extremely unnatural and absurd. These same savages have in them the seeds of the logician, the man of taste, the orator, the statesman, the man of virtue, and the saint. These seeds are planted in their minds by nature, though, for want of culture and exercise, they lie unnoticed, and are hardly perceived by themselves or by others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Seeds? Is an acorn an oak tree? Well, yes, potentially as Aristotle might say. And yes, Wilson is right that the potential is there. But does that get us far? Is it not trivial to say we have the potential to be good men? If we examine Wilson's hints, it is clear where he gets his ethical thought. Here he agrees with Addison.&lt;blockquote&gt;"It is impossible," says the incomparable Addison, "to read a passage in Plato or Tully, and a thousand other ancient moralists, without being a greater and a better man for it. On the contrary, I could never read some modish modern authors, without being, for some time, out of humour with myself, and at every thing about me. Their business is to depreciate human nature, and consider it under its worst appearances. ...”&lt;/blockquote&gt;Wilson quotes many gems from Cicero including my favorite on universal natural law from &lt;i&gt;The Republic&lt;/i&gt;. However, here’s one on civil society:&lt;blockquote&gt;To civil society, indeed, without including in its description the idea of civil government, the name of state may be assigned, by way of excellence. It is in this sense that Cicero seems to use it, in the following beautiful passage. "Nothing, which is exhibited on our globe, is more acceptable to that divinity, which governs the whole universe, than those communities and assemblages of men, which, lawfully associated, ― jure sociati ― are denominated states."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How often has the end been sacrificed to the means! Government was instituted for the happiness of society how often has the happiness of society been offered as a victim to the idol of government! But this is not agreeable to the true order of things: it is not consistent with the orthodox political creed. Let government ― let even the constitution be, as they ought to be, the handmaids; let them not be, for they ought not to be, the mistresses of the state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A state may be described ― a complete body of free persons, united together for their common benefit, to enjoy peaceably what is their own, and to do justice to others. It is an artificial person: it has an understanding and a will peculiar to itself: it has its affairs and its interests: it deliberates and resolves: it has its rules; it has its obligations; and it has its rights. It may acquire property, distinct from that of its members: it may incur debts, to be discharged out of the publick stock, not out of the private fortunes of individuals: it may be bound by contracts, and for damages arising &lt;i&gt;quasi ex contractu&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;He jumps from Cicero to Locke! Impressive! As much as he pays respect to an innate sense and God's "seeds" he still loves to read his Cicero and Locke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While I haven’t read every line, it is clear that Wilson had an impressive intellect which he applied to every branch of philosophy. He applied a critical eye to Descartes, Hume, Locke, and Reid--making many excellent criticisms along the way. Quite an enjoyable read!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6954664889403620051?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6954664889403620051/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6954664889403620051&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6954664889403620051'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6954664889403620051'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/james-wilson-philosopher-jurist.html' title='James Wilson - Philosopher Jurist'/><author><name>Jason Pappas</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://www.sikyon.com/Mykinai/Art/images/agamemnon_mask.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4255598410265430875</id><published>2012-01-20T18:59:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-20T18:59:36.980-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Craig Fehrman Refutes David Barton on Jefferson</title><content type='html'>In the LA Times &lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0108-fehrman-jefferson-20120108,0,6146482.story"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4255598410265430875?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4255598410265430875/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4255598410265430875&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4255598410265430875'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4255598410265430875'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/craig-fehrman-refutes-david-barton-on.html' title='Craig Fehrman Refutes David Barton on Jefferson'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6527677502400621227</id><published>2012-01-20T18:32:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-20T18:32:48.882-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Three New Posts from Throckmorton Debunking Barton</title><content type='html'>The first is &lt;a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/did-thomas-jefferson-give-the-jefferson-bible-to-missionaries/"&gt;Did Thomas Jefferson give the Jefferson Bible to missionaries?&lt;/a&gt;; the second is &lt;a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/10/did-thomas-jefferson-found-the-virginia-bible-society/"&gt;Did Thomas Jefferson found the Virginia Bible Society&lt;/a&gt;?; and the third is &lt;a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/11/is-the-jefferson-bible-just-the-words-of-christ/"&gt;Is the Jefferson Bible just the words of Jesus?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6527677502400621227?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6527677502400621227/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6527677502400621227&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6527677502400621227'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6527677502400621227'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/three-new-posts-from-throckmorton.html' title='Three New Posts from Throckmorton Debunking Barton'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1266278471083294390</id><published>2012-01-18T19:12:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T19:12:29.299-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Church and State: A Humanist View by Vern L. Bullough</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&amp;amp;page=bullough_16_2"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;.  A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There have been two conflicting traditions in the United States about the relationship between church and state. The first is exemplified by the holiday of Thanksgiving, which emphasizes the religious foundation of the United States. The Pilgrim fathers set out in the New World not only to worship as they wanted but to establish God's kingdom. They had the truth and all others were wrong; church and state were one. The second tradition comes from the time of the writing of the American Constitution, when our deistic, freethinking Founding Fathers (no mothers) embodied in the Constitution the principle of separation of church and state. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conflict between the two traditions should be obvious, and it was neatly finessed by our Constitution makers by more or less ignoring what states did. Although technically the last established religion was eliminated in 1833 in Massachusetts, the lack of an established religion did not mean real separation of church and state. States later admitted to the union had to adopt statutes about religious freedom, but, since most Americans nominally came from a European Christian background, religious observances played an important role in American history. One current example is the delivering of a prayer that opens up Congress, a practice that Free Inquiry's editor, Paul Kurtz, attempted to stop by a lawsuit, which he lost. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was never more struck by the contradictions in our concepts of separation of church and state than when I lived in so-called emancipated New York State. I appeared several times in court in New York as an expert witness, and each time I was required to swear an oath on the Bible to tell the truth so help me God. I objected to the attorneys for whom I was testifying but they asked me not to call attention to the issue since it could negatively affect their client. I complied. In the university at which I taught in New York, the commencement ceremonies were opened and closed with prayers, although there was a real effort by the clergy doing the invocation and benediction to keep their remarks general and platitudinous. Most secular schools in the United States have Christmas and Easter breaks, although the Easter break is somewhat less common than it was a few years ago. The most secular school I attended was the University of Chicago, at one time a Baptist school, which ignored religious holidays of all kinds but did have its quarter session usually end about December 22. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1266278471083294390?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1266278471083294390/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1266278471083294390&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1266278471083294390'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1266278471083294390'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/church-and-state-humanist-view-by-vern.html' title='Church and State: A Humanist View by Vern L. Bullough'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-9077021894497875145</id><published>2012-01-18T07:38:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T07:38:11.556-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Mormonism Obsessed with Christ</title><content type='html'>From &lt;a href="http://www.firstthings.com/article/2012/01/mormonism-obsessed-with-christ"&gt;Stephen H. Webb at First Things&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;After all, what gives Christianity its identity is its commitment to the divinity of Jesus Christ. And on that ground Mormons are more Christian than many mainstream Christians who do not take seriously the astounding claim that Jesus is the Son of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mormonism is obsessed with Christ, and everything that it teaches is meant to awaken, encourage, and expand faith in him. It adds to the plural but coherent portrait of Jesus that emerges from the four gospels in a way, I am convinced, that does not significantly damage or deface that portrait.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-9077021894497875145?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/9077021894497875145/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=9077021894497875145&amp;isPopup=true' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/9077021894497875145'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/9077021894497875145'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/mormonism-obsessed-with-christ.html' title='Mormonism Obsessed with Christ'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1955738168629539662</id><published>2012-01-16T15:13:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-16T15:13:03.200-07:00</updated><title type='text'>MLK, Aquinas, &amp; James Wilson</title><content type='html'>William Allen of Michigan State University ties them together &lt;a href="http://www.nlnrac.org/american/american-civil-rights-movements"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We define civil rights in the context of the founding of the United States Constitution, and in many respects they are best understood in that light. The first place in which to find that context is the Declaration of Independence, which declares the meaning of civil rights.[1] Secondly, we have the best indigenous articulation of civil rights from that founding father who also best explained the relation between civil rights and natural law: James Wilson. Thirdly, reviewing illustrative Supreme Court defenses of civil rights can quickly reveal how far the decisions of the justices were regulated so as to tie advances in civil rights to an advance in understanding natural law (even for persons who would disavow reliance upon natural law).  Finally, the seminal statement of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in his “Letter from a Birmingham Jail,” clearly expresses the fundamental ground of equality identified by James Wilson (and the Declaration of Independence) as essential to civil rights; it also invokes the entire sweep of Western reflection on the meaning of justice in such a way as to show the pursuit of civil rights as nothing less than perfecting civil relations in light of natural law.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1955738168629539662?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1955738168629539662/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1955738168629539662&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1955738168629539662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1955738168629539662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/mlk-aquinas-james-wilson.html' title='MLK, Aquinas, &amp; James Wilson'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2469445194786427976</id><published>2012-01-15T11:54:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-15T11:55:24.480-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Jefferson and Religion</title><content type='html'>Thomas Jefferson (Bill Barker) on religion in America and schools:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7y9_WecocyA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2469445194786427976?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2469445194786427976/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2469445194786427976&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2469445194786427976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2469445194786427976'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/jefferson-and-religion.html' title='Jefferson and Religion'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/7y9_WecocyA/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6388242942297746211</id><published>2012-01-13T09:25:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-13T09:25:24.871-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Sandefur on Substantive Due Process and Milton</title><content type='html'>Timothy Sandefur has &lt;a href="http://www.harvard-jlpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SandefurFinal.pdf"&gt;a new article out in Harvard-JLPP&lt;/a&gt; arguing the case FOR substantive due process on philosophical and originalist grounds.  It is not, he argues, something judges just made up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He has a fascinating passage on John Milton.  Milton was a notable Whig thinker who greatly influenced America's Founders and whose influences has been much neglected.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From JOHN MILTON, The Tenure of Kings and Magistrates in THE STUDENT’S MILTON&lt;br /&gt;758 (Frank Allen Patterson ed., rev. ed. 1936) (1650):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[T]o say kings are accountable to none but God, is the overturning of all law and government. For if they may refuse to give account, then all covenants made with them at coronation, all oaths are in vain, and mere mockeries; all laws which they swear to keep, made to no purpose: for if the king fear not God (as how many of them do not,) we hold then our lives and estates by the tenure of his mere grace and mercy, as from a god, not a mortal magistrate; a position that none but court parasites or men besotted would maintain! Aristotle, therefore, whom we commonly allow for one of the best interpreters of nature and morality, writes in the fourth of his Politics, chap. x. that “monarchy unaccountable is the worst sort of tyranny; and least of all to be endured by free‐born men.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And surely no Christian prince . . . would arrogate so unreasonably above human condition, or derogate so basely from a whole nation of men, his brethren, as if for him only subsisting, and to serve his glory, valuing them in comparison of his own brute will and pleasure no more than so many beasts, or vermin under his feet, not to be reasoned with, but to be trod on . . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6388242942297746211?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6388242942297746211/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6388242942297746211&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6388242942297746211'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6388242942297746211'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/sandefur-on-substantive-due-process-and.html' title='Sandefur on Substantive Due Process and Milton'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4328921388099048664</id><published>2012-01-12T10:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-12T10:47:09.206-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Historiography of Bernal Diaz and the Conquest of "New Spain"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sOHKf3b7R2g/Tw8bveBSaZI/AAAAAAAAEQ8/7Ok0XCXBhJk/s1600/spain.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 215px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sOHKf3b7R2g/Tw8bveBSaZI/AAAAAAAAEQ8/7Ok0XCXBhJk/s320/spain.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5696802555973233042" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;490 years ago, a group of ambitious Spaniards ascended the southeastern slope of the Sierra de Ahualco, a large mountain that overlooked the lush Mexican landscape.  Upon reaching the stony top, these men gazed upon a civilization unlike anything that existed in Europe.  Tenochtitlan, the native “Aztec” people called it, was a prosperous city nestled neatly into the beauty of the Mexican valley.  The panorama of cultivated fields, irrigated by complex water networks was no doubt a charming sight to behold.  Towering buildings adorned with gold glistened in the sunlight, enhancing the Spaniards thirst for plunder.  Led by the ambitious Hernan Cortes, these Spaniards would stop at nothing in order to seize the riches that lay before them.   Unfortunately for the people of Tenochtitlan, these first "explorers" from Spain would turn out to be the beginning of the end for their civilization.  Their subsequent conquest and subjugation to the Spanish eventually led to the demise of the Aztec world and the continued rise of Spanish colonization in the "New World."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over the years the story of Hernan Cortes has been both praised and scrutinized by a wide range of critics.  Even his contemporaries were divided over the achievements Cortes had accomplished.  Many considered him to be one of Spain’s greatest villains, while others were quick to call him a national hero.  Amongst those that rose to defend the acts of Cortes and the conquest of "New Spain" was a poor peasant Spaniard turned conquistador named Bernal Diaz del Castillo.  As a loyal soldier in Cortes’s army, Diaz became an eyewitness to the Spanish conquests of Mexico.  In the latter years of his life, Diaz wrote his life experiences as a conquistador in his infamous history, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Conquest-New-Spain-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140441239/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1326388926&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Conquest of New Spain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.   Though not always kind to Cortes, Diaz gives a predominantly favorable view of Spain’s most legendary conquistador, and the actions of the men that followed him.  Over the years, however, the history of Bernal Diaz has been interpreted from many different perspectives.  To understand the historiography of Bernal Diaz, a general inquiry into his motivations for exploration, combined with an analysis of how Diaz’s record was perceived by his contemporaries vs. its current historical significance, are essential components in appreciating the historical significance of Diaz’s work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To understand the record of Bernal Diaz, one must first understand his motivations for becoming a conquistador.  Spanish society in the sixteenth century was a world deeply divided by social and economic inequality.  A massive number of Spaniards lived in the depths of poverty, expecting little chance to improve their social or economic status.  As J.S. Elliot points out, "Cortes, along with the vast majority of explorers, belonged to an overpopulated social class for whom Spain had little to offer."  Bernal Diaz also belonged to this low social class.  Born in Medina del Campo, Diaz’s childhood was full of scenes of poverty and violence.  Having been raised in such an environment, Diaz became acclimated to many of the violent struggles he would face in Mexico.  Like Cortes, Diaz longed for the opportunity to make something of himself.  The lure of New World conquest became the opportunity he longed for.  Historian Rolena Adorno points out that for Diaz, "His primary goal was to achieve economic prosperity for himself and his heirs, and he was fairly successful."&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9VMiRhqBzZY/Tw8bzvOTUDI/AAAAAAAAERI/SZbxa3WFd1Y/s1600/Bernal%2Bdel%2BCastillo.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 200px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9VMiRhqBzZY/Tw8bzvOTUDI/AAAAAAAAERI/SZbxa3WFd1Y/s200/Bernal%2Bdel%2BCastillo.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5696802629310697522" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Diaz, however, was not motivated exclusively by economic factors.  Upon his arrival to the "New World," Diaz was overcome by the religious fervor that infected most of the Spanish.  "Our desire was to throw their [the Aztecs] idols out of the temples, for they were evil and led them astray...we gave them a cross, which would always aid them, bring them good harvests and save their souls."  The Spanish were easily able to justify these actions of religious bigotry and hatred.  Since 1493 the Spanish (along with other European nations) lived under the delusion that the New World was in fact divinely theirs.  With the discovery of the New World, Pope Alexander VI issued a papal decree that promised Spain all the undiscovered lands 370 leagues west of the Cape Verde Islands.  As a result, Spain was guaranteed its "legitimate" claim to colonize the New World.  Queen Isabella even declared the inhabitants of the New World to be her "subjects and vassals."&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;With such powerful religious conviction behind them, Cortes and his band of soldiers had all the justification they needed to rationalize their brutality towards the natives.  Seeing that the Aztecs "eat the flesh of roasted legs of Indians and the arms of soldiers”, Cortes and his men felt it their Christian duty to "purify" the heathen natives and their lands.   Backed by the threats of execution, Cotes and his men obligated many native communities to "give up human sacrifice and robbery and the foul practice of sodomy, and to cease worshiping their accursed idols," or, "be absolutely prepared to fight and die."  As a result, entire villages of natives were annihilated.  As Diaz wrote, "We found the houses full of corpses, and some poor Mexicans still in them who could not move away.  Their excretions were the sort of filth that thin swine pass which have been fed on nothing but grass."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The earliest trends in the historiography of Bernal Diaz and the conquest of Mexico have often praised the conquistadors for their remarkable bravery.  In the middle part of the nineteenth century, William H. Prescott published his now infamous book, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/History-Conquest-Mexico-Peru/dp/0815410042/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1326389238&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;History of the Conquest of Mexico and Peru&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; in which he stated, "The subversion of a great empire by a handful of adventurers...has the air of romance rather than sober history."  Prescott interpreted the works of these early conquistadors (including Diaz) in a quasi-poetic fashion.  Though occasionally critical of the conquistadors, Prescott gives a great amount of praise to the conquistadors in his narrative.  Prescott also credits Diaz for his objective account of the conquest of Mexico.  Many of these early interpretations of Spanish colonization were deeply influenced by a Western superiority complex that negated the concerns of native people.  Whether in the fictional works of Shakespeare’s &lt;em&gt;The Tempest&lt;/em&gt;, Daniel Defoe’s &lt;em&gt;Robinson Crusoe&lt;/em&gt;, or in the words of the conquistadors themselves, European supremacy was asserted to the highest degree.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Bernal Diaz’s work was also rarely scrutinized.  Though not published until after his death, Diaz’s account of the conquest of Mexico was taken virtually at face value by the majority of European readers.  Even William Prescott rarely challenged the accuracy or prejudice of Diaz.  After all, Diaz was "among the writers who defined what was unique about Spain’s early experience in America."  His work was seen as central to the historiography of Cortes and Mexican conquest.  Questioning Diaz’s work seemed like a ridiculous suggestion for the early scholars of Spanish colonialism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the most part, the history of Bernal Diaz remained unchallenged even into the early parts of the twentieth century.  Though often harangued on various mundane issues, Diaz’s history rarely received any direct attacks.  The only disputations over Diaz’s history centered on various comments that were found to be, "exaggerated or misplaced."  The only major issue in the historiography of Bernal Diaz had to do with his clash against the records of Bartolome de Las Casas and Francisco Lopez de Gomara.   Both Las Casas and Gomara asserted that the actions of Hernan Cortes and his soldiers were utterly reprehensible, due to their barbaric acts of cruelty during the conquest of Mexico.  Diaz’s record, however, seemed to eclipse the histories of Las Casas and Gomara by suggesting that the acts of Mexican conquest were never as destructive as some suggested.  In his record, Diaz repeatedly mentioned how he and the other men "tired of war," almost suggesting that they fought because they had no other choice.  Diaz also tried to diffuse the notion that he and his fellow soldiers reaped huge economic gains from their plunder.  "We captains and soldiers were all somewhat sad when we saw how little gold there was and how poor and mean our shares would be."  Of course Diaz neglected to mention the fact that he and others received enormous estates, titles and slaves upon the completion of their murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Recent scholarly inquiry into Bernal Diaz and the conquest of Mexico has made some significant changes to its historiography.  As stated before, for centuries the conquistadors rarely received any direct challenge to their legacy.  It was not until the latter parts of the twentieth century that the first major attacks to the historiography of the conquistadors were made.  The initial question historians made concerning the conquest of Spain was, "is the conquest of Mexico justified?"  For the first time historians began to read the words of Diaz in a new light.  Instead of interpreting their actions through the lens of European prejudice, the conquistadors were exposed for what they truly were.  The conquest of the Aztec civilization was no longer appreciated for its ability to spread Christianity or subdue the "heathens." Instead of being honored for their bravery in battle or glorified for their defense of Christianity, men like Bernal Diaz were recognized primarily for their greed.  Though Cortes and his men, "delighted in their new great fortune," which came at the expense of the native people, and after "all the gold and silver and jewels in Mexico had been added together," the conquistadors still could not escape the fact that they were, in the end, thieves and murderers.  For the first time, Diaz’s account was subjected to scholarly investigation and genuine criticism.  Historians began to suggest that much of Diaz’s work was, "an attempt to keep abreast of the paste of events that profoundly threatened his economic well being."  In other words, much of what Diaz wrote was done to defend his social and economic status, not to mention his reputation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be certain, Bernal Diaz’s &lt;em&gt;The Conquest of New Spain&lt;/em&gt; has played an essential role in the overall historiography of Mexican conquest.  It has provided us with an eyewitness account of the destruction, subjugation and assimilation of the native people in and around Tenochtitlan.  Though clearly prejudicial and xenophobic in his approach to this historical event, Diaz’s record still remains an important (and hotly debated) primary source document of Spanish conquest.  As the interpretation of Diaz’s work has changed over the years, scholars have been able to make significant changes to the historiography of Spanish conquest.  Instead of being seen as stalwart Christian heroes, the greedy motives of the conquistadors have been exposed, and the true nature of Spanish conquest revealed.  One can only imagine what future historical inquiry will reveal.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4328921388099048664?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4328921388099048664/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4328921388099048664&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4328921388099048664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4328921388099048664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/historiography-of-bernal-diaz-and.html' title='Historiography of Bernal Diaz and the Conquest of &quot;New Spain&quot;'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sOHKf3b7R2g/Tw8bveBSaZI/AAAAAAAAEQ8/7Ok0XCXBhJk/s72-c/spain.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8301362141724843365</id><published>2012-01-10T17:15:00.006-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-12T10:13:56.543-07:00</updated><title type='text'>New-Old Article By Me</title><content type='html'>Some time back (2004 or 05 I think), I submitted this article to &lt;a href="http://www.libertymagazine.org/"&gt;Liberty Magazine&lt;/a&gt;, no not &lt;a href="http://www.libertyunbound.com/"&gt;THAT Liberty Magazine&lt;/a&gt; which also &lt;a href="http://www.libertyunbound.com/node/122"&gt;published me&lt;/a&gt;, but the one affiliated with the Adventists.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well &lt;a href="http://www.libertymagazine.org/index.php?id=1812"&gt;they finally published it&lt;/a&gt;.  My name is "Jon" not "John" and I no longer teach at Philadelphia University.  But I can't complain because they did publish it and I did get paid.  And they gave me complimentary copies.  For these things I will forever be grateful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the subject of the article, you are just going to have to &lt;a href="http://www.libertymagazine.org/index.php?id=1812"&gt;read it&lt;/a&gt;.  What's interesting is to see how my views have changed in years since.  I agree with the thrust of what I wrote.  However, I no longer think the God of the Declaration was as strictly deistic as Walter Berns (whom I cite) asserts.  I still believe the DOI's God is not necessarily the God of the Bible.  It could be.  But the DOI's God is more Providential or theistic than Berns intimates.  The DOI's God, I have come to believe, is the God of generic monotheism, the one that, as much as possible, is all things to all people.  It could be the Triniarian God, a non-Trinitarian biblical God (if that's not a contradiction in terms) the Jehovah of the Jewish people who inspired the Old but not the New Testament, a Providential Deist God, Allah, the Mormon God, the Native Americans' Great Spirit, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand this is what I cited from Walter Berns:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"The God invoked there is 'nature's God,' not, or arguably not, the God of the Bible, not the God whom, today, 43 percent of Americans . . . claim regularly to worship on the Sabbath. Nature's God issues no commands. No one can fall from his grace, and, therefore, no one has reason to pray to him asking for his forgiveness. He makes no promises. On the contrary, he endowed us with 'certain inalienable rights,' then left us alone, and with the knowledge, or at least the confidence, that he will never interfere in our affairs. Moreover, he is not a jealous God; he allows us—in fact, he endows us with the right—to worship other gods or even no god at all."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the DOI's God could be Berns' God.  His description does have the barest degree of Providentialism to it.  However, it's not necessarily or arguably this God.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8301362141724843365?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8301362141724843365/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8301362141724843365&amp;isPopup=true' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8301362141724843365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8301362141724843365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-old-article-by-me.html' title='New-Old Article By Me'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5926824799694692877</id><published>2012-01-10T09:35:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-10T09:35:06.449-07:00</updated><title type='text'>John Quincy Adams on Protestantism &amp; the French Revolution</title><content type='html'>I caught this while reading JQA's letter to his mother &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=wdd2AAAAMAAJ&amp;lpg=PA458&amp;ots=pNBXE6yLMC&amp;dq=john%20quincy%20adams%20athanasian&amp;pg=PA466#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;dated January 9, 1816&lt;/a&gt; (I added paragraph breaks for clarity):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;.... Dr. Price was duped by the goodness and simplicity of his heart, by the enthusiasm of his love for liberty, and by his ignorance of the world in which he lived. His ardent zeal in favor of the French Revolution has shed a sort of ridicule upon his reputation, and his opinions upon that and some other subjects have been so completely falsified by events which have happened since his death, that his very name is sinking into oblivion. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed the Dissenters in this country have fallen much into contempt since his time. Their political and religious doctrines have a tide equally strong running against them; and their conduct, which at one time swelled into seditious insolence, and at another sunk into fawning servility, has thrown them into such discredit, that the church may now, if they please, persecute them with impunity. They attempted here a few weeks since to make a stir about the real persecution under which the Protestants are suffering in the south of France. They held meetings, and passed high sounding resolutions, and opened subscriptions, and sent deputations to his Majesty's ministers, and buzzed about their importance, as busily and intrusively as so many horse-flies in dog-days. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His Majesty's ministers put off their deputation with general, insignificant civilities, which they met again, and resolved to give highly satisfactory assurances of support and interference in behalf of French Protestants. His Majesty's ministers then set their daily newspapers to circulate the report that Protestants in France were all Jacobins, and that if they were massacred, and had their churches burnt, their houses pulled down over their heads, it was not for their religion but for their politics. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From that moment Master Bull has had neither compassion nor compunction for the French Protestants. The Dissenters by a rare notion of stupidity and Jesuitism (for there are Jesuits of all denominations) have denied the fact, and vainly attempted to suppress the evidence that proved it; of stupidity for not perceiving that this must ultimately be proved against them, and of Jesuitism for contesting the fact against their better knowledge, because they could produce Protestant invectives against Bonaparte after his fall, and Protestant adulation to Louis 18 after his restoration. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The French Protestants, like the English Dissenters, have been throughout the course of the French Revolution generally time-servers. Like the mongrel brood of Babylonians and Samaritans after the Assyrian captivity, their political worship has been after "the manner of the God of the land." They have feared the Lord and served their graven images. They hated Bonaparte, no doubt, in proportion as they found themselves galled by his yoke, and they had no gratitude for the protection and security which his authority gave them for the free exercise of their religion and the quiet enjoyment of their property. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the Protestants had unquestionably been from the first ardent supporters and exaggerated friends of the revolution. It was indeed natural enough that they should be, for the revolution had redeemed them from a worse than Egyptian thraldom. My father well remembers from personal knowledge what was the condition of the Protestants in France before the revolution, and in what sort of sentiments concerning them and their religion all the Bourbons were educated. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The revolution gave them equal religious and political rights with those of the rest of their countrymen. They had been twenty years freely and eagerly purchasing the national property, and among the rest, it appears, had purchased two of the old convents at Nismes, and used them for churches. Yet they joined in the hue and cry against Napoleon after he was down. Yet they fawned upon the Bourbons, when from the shoulders of the enemies of France they were turned off upon them, and licked the dust at the feet of Louis le Desire. As if tythes, and monks, and barefoot processions, and legends, and relics, and religious bigotry, had not been the darling and only consolations of Louis and his Bourbons in their exile, and would not inevitably bring back religious intolerance with them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, this is the foundation upon which the Dissenters here have relied, to deny that the present persecution of the French Protestants has been for politics. But now comes a letter from the Duke of Wellington, formally announcing that it was for politics, and henceforth, instead of whining, and resolving, and subscribing for the French Protestants, the churchmen here, if the coal of the Angouleme fires were extinguished, would lend him a fagot to kindle them again. The Duke of Wellington says, too, that he is convinced the French government have done all in their power to protect the Protestants. This is not so certain. But whether they have or not, is held to be perfectly immaterial. The French Protestants were Jacobins or Bonapartists—nothing more just and proper than that they should be hunted down as wild beasts. At the same time, the ministerial prints are teeming with reproaches upon two of the king's sons for having lately attended at a charity sermon preached in a Methodist chapel, and giving broad hints that the church must be strengthened against the Dissenters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not sure if I would categorize the FR as a "Protestant" event, but Protestantism certainly fueled its flames.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5926824799694692877?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5926824799694692877/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5926824799694692877&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5926824799694692877'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5926824799694692877'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-quincy-adams-on-protestantism.html' title='John Quincy Adams on Protestantism &amp; the French Revolution'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6010543232125714829</id><published>2012-01-06T13:32:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-06T13:48:19.581-07:00</updated><title type='text'>John Quincy Adams Defends small o orthodox small c catholic Christianity to his father</title><content type='html'>I've posted numerous times the quotation of the elder John Adams to JQA defending unitarianism.  For context, I'll post it again below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We Unitarians, one of whom I have had the Honour to be, for more than sixty Years, do not indulge our Malignity in profane Cursing and Swearing, against you Calvinists; one of whom I know not how long you have been. You and I, once saw Calvin and Arius, on the Plafond of the Cathedral of St. John the Second in Spain roasting in the Flames of Hell. We Unitarians do not delight in thinking that Plato and Cicero, Tacitus Quintilian Plyny and even Diderot, are sweltering under the scalding drops of divine Vengeance, for all Eternity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- John Adams to John Quincy Adams, March 28, 1816.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The quotation indicates that, apparently, John Quincy Adams had embraced a Calvinistic form of orthodox Christianity. I'm less well read in JQA's religion; I've seen that he vacillated between unitarianism and orthodoxy for much of his adult life.  I'm not sure where he ended up at death.  In 1816, he seemed to be in the orthodox camp.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that, let us observe JQA defending, to HIS father, orthodox Trinitarianism.  We also see JQA defending the small c catholicism of the Christian Church.  This is important.  Catholicism simply means "universal."  The Bible talks about Christ's "Church."  As it were, the notion of a "catholic Church" is entirely biblical, and for that reason accepted by the vast majority of evangelicals/reformed Christians.  They just don't believe that the Church whose Bishop of Rome is the Pope heads said Church.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of the orthodox creeds, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed"&gt;Nicene&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed"&gt;Apostles&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed"&gt;Athanasian&lt;/a&gt; invoke the "catholic" church, though some translations might not use that term, but rather opt for "universal" or simply "Christian" before "church."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But do keep this (small c catholic = universal church = orthodox Trinitarian) not only reading JQA's sentiments to his father, but for the sake of context in these matters in general.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=wdd2AAAAMAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA458&amp;amp;lpg=PA458&amp;amp;dq=john+quincy+adams+athanasian&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=pNBXE6yLMC&amp;amp;sig=e1648MAiWaGMtegAQA6BESi3_4M&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=4FUHT43YD8TEtwe4ka3bDQ&amp;amp;ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;Dated, January 5, 1816&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;My Dear Sir:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I plainly perceive that you are not to be converted, even by the eloquence of Massillon, to the Athanasian creed. But when you recommend to me Carlostad, and Scheffmacher, and Priestley, and Waterland, and Clerk, and Beausobre—Mercy! mercy! what can a blind man do to be saved by unitarianism, if he must read all this to understand his Bible? I went last Christmas day to Ealing Church, and heard the Reverend Colston Carr, the vicar, declare and pronounce, among other things, that whosoever doth not keep the catholic faith whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is This: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, etc.—in short the creed of Saint Athanasius; which, as you know, the eighth article of the English Church says, may be proved by most certain warrants of Holy Scripture. Now I have had many doubts about the Athanasian Creed; but if I read much more controversy about it, I shall finish by faithfully believing it. Mr. Channing says he does not believe, because he cannot comprehend it. Does he comprehend how the omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, infinite, eternal spirit, can be the father of a mortal man, conceived and born of a Virgin? Does he comprehend his own meaning when he speaks of God as the Father, and Christ as the Son? Does he comprehend the possibility according to human reason, of one page in the Bible from the first verse in Genesis to the last verse of the Apocalypse? If he does, I give him joy of his discovery, and wish he would impart it to his fellow Christians. If the Bible is a moral tale, there is no believing in the Trinity. But if it is the rule of faith— &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope you will not think me in danger of perishing everlastingly, for believing too much, and when you know all, with your aversion to thinking of the Jesuits, you may think I have made a lucky escape, if I do not believe in transubstantiation. During almost the whole period of my late residence in Russia, I had the pleasure of a social and very friendly acquaintance with the Right Reverend Father in God, Thaddeus Brozowsky, then and now Father General of the Jesuits, one of the most respectable, amiable, and venerable men that I have ever known. As I was the medium of communication between him and his correspondents in the United States, he used frequently to call upon me, and I had often occasion to return his visits. We used to converse upon all sorts of topics, and among the rest upon religion. He occasionally manifested a compassionate wish for my conversion to the true Catholic faith, and one day undertook to give me a demonstration of the real presence in the Eucharist. He said it was ingeniously proved in a copperplate print which he had seen, representing Jesus Christ sitting between Luther and Calvin, each of them bearing the wafer of the communion. Each of them had also a label issuing from his lips, and, pointing with the finger to the bread, Christ was saying, "This is my body," while Luther said, "This represents my body," and Calvin, "This signifies my body." At the bottom of the whole was the question, "Which of them speaks the truth?" It was not the worthy Father's fault if I did not consider this demonstration as conclusive as he did. Another day—and it will give you an idea of the simplicity of this good man's heart—we were discussing together the celibacy of the clergy, which he deemed indispensable, that they might be altogether devoted to the service of their Lord and master, and not liable to the avocations of this world's concerns. I did not think it would be generous to remind him of the manner in which the experience of the world had shown that the vows of religious chastity usually resulted, but rather resorted to authority with regard to the principle. I observed to him that not only all the Protestant communities, but the Greek Church also, allowed the clergy to marry. Upon which, after a moment of reflection, he said, "Oui, c'est vrai. II n'y a que l'eglise romaine qui soit encore vierge!" Indeed, you must give me some credit for firmness of character, for withstanding the persuasion of such a patriarch as this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;....&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6010543232125714829?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6010543232125714829/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6010543232125714829&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6010543232125714829'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6010543232125714829'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/john-quincy-adams-defends-small-o.html' title='John Quincy Adams Defends small o orthodox small c catholic Christianity to his father'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1509504880937933515</id><published>2012-01-06T09:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-06T09:27:00.331-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Jefferson on the Enlightenment</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/images/vc182.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/images/vc182.jpg" width="155" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As the Sage of Monticello wrote regarding the 18th century:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;It certainly witnessed the sciences and arts, manners and morals, advanced to a higher degree than the world had ever before seen. &amp;nbsp;And might we not go back to the ear of the Borgias, by which time the barbarous ages had reduced national morality to its lowest point of depravity, and observe that the arts and sciences, rising from that point, advanced gradually through all the sixteenth, seventeenth and eighteen centuries, softening and correcting the manners and morals of man? &amp;nbsp;I think, too, we may add to the great honor for science and the arts, that their natural effect is, by illuminating public opinion, to erect it into a sensor, before which the most exalted tremble for their future, as well as present fame.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;- Thomas Jefferson,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Letter to John Adams dated&amp;nbsp;January 11, 1816&lt;/i&gt;, taken from&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;In God We Trust: &amp;nbsp;The Religious Beliefs and Ideas of the American Founding Fathers&lt;/i&gt;, ed. by Norman Cousins (Harper &amp;amp; Bros.: &amp;nbsp;1958), pg. 266.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Cross-posted at &lt;a href="http://culbydaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/quote-147-jefferson-on-enlightenment.html"&gt;Culby's Daily Quotebook&lt;/a&gt;.]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1509504880937933515?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1509504880937933515/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1509504880937933515&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1509504880937933515'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1509504880937933515'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/jefferson-on-enlightenment.html' title='Jefferson on the Enlightenment'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3140686283254985560</id><published>2012-01-05T20:22:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T20:36:48.667-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>George Washington on civic affairs, revelation, and the need to imitate the "Divine Author of our blessed religion"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/image-files/george-washington-portrait-large.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/image-files/george-washington-portrait-large.jpg" width="254" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;George Washington's pronouncements regarding civic religion were usually couched in general language. &amp;nbsp;He rarely referred to God in specific confessional terms, for example, but rather used generalized language that reflects often common 18th century Deistic terminology. &amp;nbsp;This use of generalized language was often paired with terminology designed to appeal to religious believers of a more orthodox Christian persuasion. &amp;nbsp;It is this pairing that more often than not leads, I think, to a good deal of the confusion regarding Washington's own religious beliefs and his view of faith in public life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A good example of Washington's use of language in this regard can been seen in one of his more significant public pronouncements, the &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Circular_to_the_States"&gt;Circular Letter to the Governors of All the States&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; regarding the disbanding of the Continental Army in 1783. &amp;nbsp;In that letter, Washington seeks to reinforce the stability of the early American Republic as the Continentals returned home after winning independence. &amp;nbsp;In his letter, Washington makes two particularly important points regarding the role of religion in civil life. &amp;nbsp;The first is that for a variety of reasons, including divine "Revelation," human society is improving. &amp;nbsp;As Washington writes:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The free cultivation of letters, the unbounded extension of commerce, the progressive refinement of manners, the growing liberality of sentiment, and, above all, the pure and benign light of Revelation, have a meliorating influence on mankind, and increased the blessings of society.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;Note that Washington, while listing many human accomplishments in this process of improvement, he attaches priority to "the pure and benign light of Revelation." It was divine Revelation, in Washington's statement, that was most to account for the progressive improvement in human society. Not a dry and cramped secularism or a humanism operating in a universe where God is simply an inattentive watchmaker, but Revelation proceeding from an active God who was communicating with human beings, moving them constantly forward toward a better future. &amp;nbsp;Washington argues that because of these many advantages -- both human and revelatory -- the happiness of the citizens of the United States as "a Nation" (and Washington uses both the singular &amp;nbsp;indefinite article and a capital "N") is for the taking. &amp;nbsp;If happiness and freedom do not result, "the fault with be entirely" our own.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Second, Washington further reinforces the importance of God's action in human events by commending the state governors and their respective states to divine care. &amp;nbsp;"I now make it my earnest prayer," he writes, "that God would have you and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection[.]" &amp;nbsp;Washington then states that he hopes that God would move the citizens of the country to "cultivate" a host of proper civic virtues: &amp;nbsp;obedience to governmental authorities, fellow-feeling for each other -- both fellow citizens and particularly for the returning veterans of the Continental Army -- and, most interesting, to emulate those virtues "which were &lt;i&gt;the characteristics of the Divine Author &lt;/i&gt;of our blessed religion[.]" (Italics in the original.) &amp;nbsp;After including a brief and common list of those virtues, Washington states that without "an humble imitation" of the example of the Divine Author, "we can never hope to be a happy nation."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;What one sees in Washington's &lt;i&gt;Circular Letter&lt;/i&gt; is language used that is non-confessionally specific, but which takes for granted certain key religious ideas: &amp;nbsp;1) &amp;nbsp;God is active in human affairs, moving human beings towards greater goodness and social solidarity; &amp;nbsp;2) because of the advantages they benefit from, the citizens of the United States are responsible for their freedom and happiness; and 3) human beings are called to imitate the attributes of God as He has revealed them. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While Washington's &lt;i&gt;Circular Letter&lt;/i&gt; is not a fully developed treatise in civic theology, it does manifest the key points of Washington's own views about the role of religion in human society. And Washington's vision in that regard was one that viewed religion as a positive force in human life and civic affairs. &amp;nbsp;It&amp;nbsp;is not, to say the least, a vision of civic life that is hostile to religious faith. &amp;nbsp;While couched in language that is not expressly orthodox, it is couched in language that is certainly amenable to orthodox interpretation. &amp;nbsp;Far from religion ruining everything, to borrow a phrase from the late Christopher Hitchens, to the Washington writing the &lt;i&gt;Circular Letter&lt;/i&gt;, religious faith stands as the well-spring for civic virtue and human happiness. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Cross-posted at my own blog, &lt;a href="http://markinspokane.blogspot.com/2012/01/george-washington-on-civic-affairs.html#links"&gt;Libertas et Memoria&lt;/a&gt;.]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3140686283254985560?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3140686283254985560/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3140686283254985560&amp;isPopup=true' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3140686283254985560'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3140686283254985560'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/george-washington-on-civic-affairs.html' title='George Washington on civic affairs, revelation, and the need to imitate the &quot;Divine Author of our blessed religion&quot;'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-217275712514425064</id><published>2012-01-05T16:58:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T17:38:35.188-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Enlightenment Deism</title><content type='html'>Dr. Joseph Waligore has &lt;a href="http://www.enlightenmentdeism.com/?page_id=25"&gt;published online&lt;/a&gt; some of his what I see as very important research clarifying what the "Enlightenment Deists" believed in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;While almost all scholars continually assert that the God of the Enlightenment deists was a remote, uninvolved, watchmaker God that generated no love or warmth in people, none of these assertions are true.   A majority of the deists thought God or the angels performed miracles; many of them prayed fervently to a God they adored; some even went into raptures of ecstasy at God’s wonderful benevolence.  Some of them believed God or the angels protected people from danger by putting thoughts into people’s minds warning them of danger.  Many believed the devil might perform miracles, and so any possible revelation backed by miracles had to be examined to be sure it was not done by the devil.   A significant number of them viewed themselves as sincere Christians who spent their lives explaining where and why orthodox Christianity had strayed from Jesus’ simple message.   A few were more interesting or featherbrained (depending on your perspective): one believed an angel had given him the key to interpreting prophecy, another said he received a sign from God to publish his first book, and another believed in reincarnation.  Enlightenment deism was not modern secularism, or even a halfway house to it; the deists were preaching a religious alternative to orthodox Christianity that they hoped the world would embrace.  Their piety and theology has been neglected, but it is due to our misunderstanding of it and not their theology’s lack of interest or influence on our culture’s intellectual history.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The entire article is worth a careful read.  I’m not sure if I am comfortable calling this “Deism”: but Waligore’s point is that many of the &lt;a href="http://www.enlightenmentdeism.com/?page_id=4"&gt;folks we think of as “Enlightenment Deists&lt;/a&gt;" actually believed THIS.  If it's proper to term this Deism, it's certainly a form of "Christian-Deism" as David L. Holmes termed it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-217275712514425064?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/217275712514425064/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=217275712514425064&amp;isPopup=true' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/217275712514425064'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/217275712514425064'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/enlightenment-deism.html' title='Enlightenment Deism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8487788419828653919</id><published>2012-01-05T07:12:00.009-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T08:46:00.165-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>A New Year, A Renewed Objective</title><content type='html'>The new year is in full swing and with it a renewed sense of purpose. As has become tradition, the new year tends to bring with it a "clean slate" of sorts in which people assess their lives and evaluate what they did well and could do better. Resolutions are made and goals set to help bring about the desired changes in one's life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And such is the case with American Creation. Over the past several days, contributors to this blog have shared a variety of opinions and suggestions on things that we could do to improve AC for our readers. The exchange, which will remain private for the most part, has centered on what I would call concerns about civility, especially in our comments section of this blog. I am not going to point anyone out nor are we going to conduct our own witch hunt here, but I do think it is important that we all reevaluate the comments we make to AC. I have myself been a HUGE offender in this regard. There have been several occasions in which I have been less-than-civil in the comments I have made. Some of this has been due to perceived attacks, but the behavior is still not excusable. I commit to do better. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know that the subject matter of this blog is oftentimes sensitive in nature. Religion and politics inevitably pop up, and with them comes strong opinions and sensitive feelings. These are delicate waters that we sometimes tread here at AC and we need to be mindful of this fact. I'm not suggesting that people set aside their opinions, beliefs or politics. Just be mindful of a couple of things when commenting:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.) The overall mission of this blog.&lt;br /&gt;2.) The general thesis of a particular blog post.&lt;br /&gt;3.) The feelings of the contributor and fellow commentators.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, let's just try and remember the Golden Rule around these parts...all of us!  Everyone brings their own skills, education levels, and yes, even biases to this blog.  Our job is not to change those things but insted to arrive at a better understanding of religion and the American founding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn't meant to be a lecture or a warning, but rather a renewal of civility. American Creation is meant to be fun, enlightening and engaging. I believe we can (and for the most part have) accomplish this. If we as commentators disagree on particular issues then no big deal. There's nothing wrong with respectful disagreement. Let's just be mindful of the tone we choose to employ. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again, a special thank you to EVERYONE who has made AC what it is. I for one look forward to this new year and all it brings. God bless and best of luck to you and yours throughout 2012!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8487788419828653919?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8487788419828653919/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8487788419828653919&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8487788419828653919'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8487788419828653919'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/new-year-renewed-objective.html' title='A New Year, A Renewed Objective'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3974324982246665710</id><published>2012-01-02T11:37:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-02T11:37:44.962-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Trenchard &amp; Gordon on Religion:  All Government proved to be instituted by Men, and only to intend the general Good of Men. (Trenchard) (NO. 60. SATURDAY, JANUARY 6, 1722)</title><content type='html'>America's Founders were Lockeans.  But they didn't get their Locke unfiltered.  T &amp;amp; G were crucial filters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See an exerpt &lt;a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1238&amp;amp;chapter=64483&amp;amp;layout=html&amp;amp;Itemid=27"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Every man's religion is his own; nor can the religion of any man, of what nature or figure soever, be the religion of another man, unless he also chooses it; which action utterly excludes all force, power, or government. Religion can never come without conviction, nor can conviction come from civil authority; religion, which is the fear of God, cannot be subject to power, which is the fear of man. It is a relation between God and our own souls only, and consists in a disposition of mind to obey the will of our great Creator, in the manner which we think most acceptable to him. It is independent upon all human directions, and superior to them; and consequently uncontrollable by external force, which cannot reach the free faculties of the mind, or inform the understanding, much less convince it. Religion therefore, which can never be subject to the jurisdiction of another, can never be alienated to another, or put in his power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3974324982246665710?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3974324982246665710/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3974324982246665710&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3974324982246665710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3974324982246665710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/trenchard-gordon-on-religion-all.html' title='Trenchard &amp;amp; Gordon on Religion:  All Government proved to be instituted by Men, and only to intend the general Good of Men. (Trenchard) (NO. 60. SATURDAY, JANUARY 6, 1722)'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6793106936206059648</id><published>2012-01-01T19:57:00.007-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-03T17:49:56.090-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Tempest over a Tea Cup</title><content type='html'>This post has nothing to do with my previous post, &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/jerry-rigging-presidential-oath-with.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jerry-rigging the Presidential Oath&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, except to illustrate how much, starting with 1821, the manner of administering an oath by an authorized New York official had changed to accommodate the religious convictions of an oath-taker. Here's a small section from &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=WEJKAAAAYAAJ&amp;pg=PA243&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=bkYAT6PGKseftwfFxLzQBg&amp;ved=0CEMQ6AEwAjjIAQ#v=onepage&amp;f=false"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reports of Chancery Cases, decided in the First Circuit of the State of New York&lt;/i&gt;, Volume III, page 243&lt;/a&gt;, which is about how an oath was administered in a New York court of justice some fifty years after our nation's first presidential inauguration:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[It is interesting] to add here, (although, it is true, it relates to an idolater's oath) the circumstances attending the examination of a Chinese in the Marine court of the city of New York, on the fifth day of December, 1839 as a witness. It was a suit before Judge Schiefflin in the Marine court; and a young man, about seventeen years old, a native of China, who could speak English tolerably well, was called by one who could speak English tolerably well, was called by one of the parties as a witness. The opposite party objected to his evidence being received on the ground that he was not a Christian nor believed in the existence of God. He was then asked by the court if he believed in Christianity, and he replied in the negative. He was next asked, did he believe in the existence of a God? and he said "I do"; for there are several gods in our temples in China." The court then quoted a section of the [1821] Revised Statutes, "Every person believing in any other than the Christian religion, shall be sworn according to the peculiar ceremonies of his religion," ... .&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After the court discussed much to do about the acceptable mode of administering an oath involving this particular circumstance, the following protocol was adopted:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The plaintiff knelt down, and the witness [of seventeen years] took in his hand what he called the Chinese Bible, and the judge, as does the Mandarin, told the witness to tell the truth. The witness then handed the bible to the plaintiff. The witness then handed the Bible to the plaintiff. The witness then took a China cup in his hand, and held it while the plaintiff read a small portion of the Chinese Bible. When the plaintiff stopped reading, the witness handed him the cup, which the plaintiff dashed against the ground with much vehemence of manner, and of course broke it into pieces. The witness then shut up the book, and witness and plaintiff kissed it, and the plaintiff stood up. The plaintiff then required the judge to put his, the plaintiff's, name in that part of the book which he had read, which the Judge did, and the witness then began to give his evidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A hat tip to Brad Hart and his recent Shakespearean comment. I, otherwise, would have forgotten all about this 1839 courtroom episode involving a tea cup.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6793106936206059648?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/jerry-rigging-presidential-oath-with.html' title='A Tempest over a Tea Cup'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6793106936206059648/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6793106936206059648&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6793106936206059648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6793106936206059648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/tempest-over-tea-cup.html' title='A Tempest over a Tea Cup'/><author><name>Ray Soller</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07950061062767093373</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6151798138296709533</id><published>2012-01-01T06:24:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T07:33:44.814-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Of Kings, Popes, Ecclesia and Mundus</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;The Love/Hate Relationship&lt;br /&gt;Between Church and State&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPiMWQgwjmk/TwBd2m8jE6I/AAAAAAAAEO4/cJ1zm0NFQkw/s1600/church-state.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 230px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPiMWQgwjmk/TwBd2m8jE6I/AAAAAAAAEO4/cJ1zm0NFQkw/s320/church-state.bmp" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5692653121745130402" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;210 years ago today, on New Year's Day, 1802, President Thomas Jefferson penned a letter to a group of Connecticut Baptists who had been the unfortunate victims of religious persecution. At the time, Connecticut had established Congregationalism as the official religion of the state, and these Danbury Baptists had asked President Jefferson for aid. In what has become known as the &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html"&gt;Danbury Letter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, President Jefferson responded to the Danbury Baptists by repeating the words of the First Amendment, which state that Congress shall "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." President Jefferson then added the words, "thus building a wall of separation between Church &amp; State." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This "wall" of "separation" between church and state is the fundamental issue at play in many a culture war today. Advocates in favor of a "Christian Nation" reduce the significance of the Danbury letter by revealing the fact that the phrase "separation of church and state" is nowhere to be had in our founding documents. Those opposed to the "Christian Nation" rebuke such a claim by pointing out that many of those same founding documents (particularly the Constitution) make no mention of God. And while both sides make appeals to different influencing factors that helped to bring about the formation of the United States (i.e. Christianity, Enlightenment, etc.) it is important for us to recognize that there is NOTHING uniquely American about this church/state battle. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To better understand the depth and the importance of this church/state conflict let us travel back to a time when it wasn't constitutions and congresses that made law but rather kings and popes. Of course I am speaking of Medieval times. This was a time of passionate religious and political bickering, as heads of state (or kingdoms) and vicars of Christ jockeyed with one another for ultimate control. The question of who possessed ultimate authority became the central theme of almost all Medieval politics. Pontiffs and princes, priests and politicians, spend centuries arguing over this singular issue in the futile effort to seize a measure of control over the other. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The analysis into the origins of this Church/State conflict could, if we let it, take us all the way back to Constantine himself. Ever since the day that Constantine the Great saw his famous vision and heard the voice "En Hoc Signo Vinces", the battle between church and state has been a raging fire throughout the Western world. Constantine's newly endowed Catholic Church, complete with imperial sanctioning and ecclesiastical authority, was a budding juggernaut of power that would eventually monopolize the governments of heaven and much of earth. Unlike its pagan predecessors, which required no major governing bureaucracy, Christianity (at least of the dominant Roman Catholic form) developed a hierarchical, authoritative governing body that eventually came to rival that of the Roman Empire itself (many historians, including the legendary &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/History-Decline-Empire-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140437649/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1325342304&amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Edward Gibbon&lt;/a&gt;, have hypothesized that this development was THE catalyst to the demise of the western Roman Empire). Traditional and simplistic rituals to the various gods and priests of paganism were replaced with dominant and influential representatives of the resurrected Christ who held all the keys to one's salvation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Christianity continued to rise upon the ashes of the dead western Roman Empire, various leaders of various lands hitched their wagons to the church in order to add divine sanctioning to their leadership resumes. Gothic lords and Frankish kings all saw the advantages that Christianity provided. It is therefore no surprise that so many of these former "barbarians" eventually became anointed kings and saints of the church. But these perks were not without their costs. As the Medieval world continued to evolve, monarchs found themselves at odds with their religious counterparts. Popes, abbots, bishops and priests demanded more control (and money) from their secular leaders, who were often found reluctant to acquiesce to those heavenly demands. And with Catholicism still in its infancy, secular leaders were able to put the early church in check by integrating themselves in with church authority. For example, most early popes relied upon powerful monarchs for not only protection but also for their nomination to the papacy. For centuries, the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire wielded incredible influence over new nominees to the Holy See, and once in power, these same popes relied heavily upon the Emperor's authority. There is no greater example or precedent of this fact than Pope Leo III, who begged Charlemagne for protection and for reinstatement to his seat as Bishop of Rome. Charlemagne obliged Leo and restored him in Rome; a gesture that Leo rewarded by pledging his allegiance to the Holy Roman Emperor and by crowning Charlemagne in St. Peter's Basilica on Christmas Day, 800. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this reliance upon monarchs was not held in high esteem by everyone within the church. For centuries church authorities had tried, with varying levels of success, to break free from the secular power. From the fraudulent &lt;em&gt;Donation of Constantine&lt;/em&gt; to &lt;em&gt;Libertas ecclesiae&lt;/em&gt;, examples of Ecclesia's quest to be on equal or superior footing with Mundus fill the archives. The best example of this quest to "break free" and assert the church's ultimate authority is the &lt;a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08084c.htm"&gt;Investiture Controversy&lt;/a&gt;, in which several kings (specifically King Henry IV) and popes (specifically Pope Gregory VII) took center stage in a clash worthy of a Hollywood script. In a nutshell, the Investiture Controversy was a disagreement that arose when church leaders challenged those monarchs who had granted appointments (investitures) to bishops and abbots within their kingdom. Contrary to popular belief, the church did not always exercise its domain over the appointment of local leaders. In fact, almost all local bishops and abbots of the early Medieval period were appointed by their local secular powers. This was due to the fact that these positions were almost always accompanied with a large land endowment. In what became known as the practice of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simony"&gt;Simony&lt;/a&gt;, kings and lords profited substantially from the sale of these church investitures, which were usually granted to secular nobles who could both afford to pay for the post and would remain loyal to the crown. For obvious reasons, church leaders saw this practice as an affront to their sovereignty and authority and looked for ways to change the status quo. This effort, however, proved to be extremely difficult, especially in the wake of ugly affairs like the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rule_of_the_Harlots"&gt;Rule of the Harlots&lt;/a&gt; and the Great Schism of 1054. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An opportunity for change finally presented itself 1056 with the death of Emperor Henry III. Henry's successor, six-year-old Henry IV, was obviously too young to govern, thus opening the door for the church to make its move. During Henry IV's youth, the church made three significant moves to help establish its supremacy: First, in 1059, Gregorian reformers helped to push forward the all-important Papal Bull, &lt;em&gt;In Nomine Domini&lt;/em&gt;, which established the College of Cardinals and invested in them the exclusive power of electing future popes. Second, in 1075, Pope Gregory VII created the &lt;em&gt;Dictatus Papae&lt;/em&gt;, which, among other things, stated that the Pope alone had the authority to depose an emperor. And third, in a Lantern Council of 1075, church leaders declared that the Pope alone had the power of investitures. With these three new mandates in hand, church authorities were finally armed with the justification for ultimate sovereignty that they had longed for. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But as was often the case with Medieval politics, many within the secular realm were not impressed. Now no longer a child, King Henry IV elected to continue with the status quo and appointed his own bishops and abbots. In addition, Henry revoked his imperial support of Pope Gregory and issued a stern warning to the Holy Father. In a &lt;a href="http://faculty.cua.edu/pennington/churchhistory220/topicfive/HenryIVLetter.htm"&gt;letter to Pope Gregory&lt;/a&gt; (in which Henry addressed him as "Hildebrand, at present not pope but false monk") Henry declared that his divine kingship came not from papal decree but from god himself:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And we, indeed, have endured all this, being eager to guard the honor of the apostolic see; you, however, have understood our humility to be fear, and have not, accordingly, shunned to rise up against the royal power conferred upon us by God, daring to threaten to divest us of it. As if we had received our kingdom from you! As if the kingdom and the empire were in your and not in God's hands! And this although our Lord Jesus Christ did call us to the kingdom, did not, however, call thee to the priesthood. For you have ascended by the following steps. By wiles, namely, which the profession of monk abhors, you have achieved money; by money, favor; by the sword, the throne of peace. And from the throne of peace you have disturbed peace, inasmuch as thou hast armed subjects against those in authority over them; inasmuch as you, who were not called, have taught that our bishops called of God are to be despised; inasmuch as you have usurped for laymen and the ministry over their priests, allowing them to depose or condemn those whom they themselves had received as teachers from the hand of God through the laying on of hands of the bishops.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3bkKxzDbIRU/TwBd8p3riFI/AAAAAAAAEPE/aiRzNITQ8Vg/s1600/invest.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 143px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3bkKxzDbIRU/TwBd8p3riFI/AAAAAAAAEPE/aiRzNITQ8Vg/s320/invest.bmp" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5692653225609234514" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Unfortunately for Henry, his royal rebuking fell on deaf ears. Pope Gregory simply ignored the letter and responded by excommunicating the Holy Roman Emperor. Not only did Henry's excommunication please church authorities but it also excited a number of German lords who had longed for a justification to usurp the king and increase their own wealth and power. Faced with overwhelming opposition from the church and growing hostility from his nobles, Henry finally chose to swallow his pride and appealed to Pope Gregory for reinstatement (legend has it that Henry traveled to Canossa, adorned himself in hairshirt and stood barefoot in the snow). Pope Gregory eventually removed Henry's excommunication but did not declare him king. In 1080 German lords had elected a new king, Rudolf of Rheinfelden, and had petitioned Gregory to anoint him as Holy Roman Emperor. Gregory found himself at a difficult crossroad and decided to not anoint either man as king. This infuriated Henry who proclaimed Clement III as pope (or antipope if you are on Gregory's team). Henry then attacked and killed Rudolf of Rheinfelden and moved on Rome to forcibly remove Gregory from the papacy. Left with no choice, Gregory called on Normon allies to come to his rescue. And though the Normans were successful in driving Henry's forces back, they chose to sack Rome themselves, causing Gregory to flee for his life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eventually the Investiture Controversy was resolved by Henry and Gregory's successors. The &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_of_Worms"&gt;Concordat of Worms&lt;/a&gt;, which essentially granted sovereignty to both the church and the state in their respective realms, became one of the first occasions in which a "wall" of "separation" was created. The Investiture Controversy, though a dramatic mess to say the least, had revealed the fact that mixing matters of church and state together would surely lead to an explosive reaction. Both entities needed a buffer from one another. As the great Medieval historian Norman Cantor put it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Investiture Controversy had shattered the early-medieval equilibrium and ended the interpenetration of ecclesia and mundus. Medieval kingship, which had been largely the creation of ecclesiastical ideals and personnel, was forced to develop new institutions and sanctions. The result during the late eleventh and early twelfth centuries, was the first instance of a secular bureaucratic state whose essential components appeared in the Anglo-Norman monarchy.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;And though the tug-o-war between church and state would rage on for several more centuries, the Investiture Controversy was a landmark event for both ecclesia and mundus. It gave religion a greater measure of independence from secular authorities who had for too long meddled in affairs to which they did not belong. The Investiture Controversy also endowed the state with a very clear sense of legitimacy that would, over the next millenia, rely less and less upon ecclesiastical endorsement and divine right authority. In short, the Investiture Controversy became the launchpad for future reformers and revolutionaries, who battled against the powers of church and state, in an effort to legitimize the independent authority of both. While the Investiture Controversy (along with subsequent struggles over the next several centuries) didn't completely solve the church/state debate, it did lay some of the initial mortar for the "wall." And as we have learned, this "wall" is not made of bricks but rather is a semi-permeable membrane through which church and state are able to occasionally cross, though once crossed is navigating through delicate waters. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c42evnswI9c/TwBea1gCMBI/AAAAAAAAEPQ/VXPf3StK91A/s1600/sand.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 269px; height: 187px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c42evnswI9c/TwBea1gCMBI/AAAAAAAAEPQ/VXPf3StK91A/s320/sand.bmp" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5692653744127356946" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;For me, the church/state barrier is like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich: though very different in texture and flavor the two were made for one another, so long as they are applied in the appropriate proportions and nobody uses the jelly knife to scoop out the peanut butter (or visa-versa). And as everyone knows, though sticky and often messy, there is nothing better than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6151798138296709533?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6151798138296709533/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6151798138296709533&amp;isPopup=true' title='29 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6151798138296709533'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6151798138296709533'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2012/01/of-kings-popes-ecclesia-and-mundus.html' title='Of Kings, Popes, Ecclesia and Mundus'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPiMWQgwjmk/TwBd2m8jE6I/AAAAAAAAEO4/cJ1zm0NFQkw/s72-c/church-state.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>29</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6033577284415542486</id><published>2011-12-31T17:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T17:30:30.591-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hochberg&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>An expression of life transforming itself</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.parabola.org/"&gt;Parabola&lt;/a&gt; is self-described as "devoted to the dissemination and exploration of materials relating to the myths, symbols, rituals, and art of the world's religious and cultural traditions." Since 1976 it has published a quarterly &lt;a href="http://www.parabola.org/seeing-table-of-contents"&gt;journal&lt;/a&gt; that is "devoted to the search for meaning, which often goes outward, then back home again along a different path."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Earlier today, Parabola posted the following quotation on its Facebook page. I share it here for its value as a simply stated profundity that I think addresses so much of what &lt;i&gt;American Creation&lt;/i&gt; discusses, and because we lost Vaclav Havel only two weeks ago. If you think "church" and "state" must forever and completely be estranged, then maybe this can help you remember that both are comprised of &lt;i&gt;the people&lt;/i&gt;. If you wonder how American governance of yesterday became what it is today, maybe this can help you remember that government, then and now, shows a reflection of &lt;i&gt;the people&lt;/i&gt;. If you find the public statements and private writings of "this" or "that" Founding Father on religious faith not in close enough agreement with your own views, maybe this can enlighten.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;‎"If a better economic and political model is to be created, then perhaps more than ever before it must derive from profound existential and moral changes in society. This is not something that can be designed and introduced like a new car. If it is to be more than just a new variation of an old degeneration, it must above all be an expression of life in the process of transforming itself. A better system will not automatically ensure a better life. In fact, the opposite is true: only by creating a better life can a better system be developed."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Vaclav Havel (1936-2011)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Happy New Year, friends! Here's to a great 2012.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Jay&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6033577284415542486?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6033577284415542486/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6033577284415542486&amp;isPopup=true' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6033577284415542486'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6033577284415542486'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/expression-of-life-transforming-itself.html' title='An expression of life transforming itself'/><author><name>Magpie Mason</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01390264410632162085</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iBdXU-bTTR0/THfEH6aH7QI/AAAAAAAAB-I/_VbWJy8bjsk/S220/Newman.JPG'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8936943333953641362</id><published>2011-12-30T14:19:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-30T14:19:29.473-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hylden on Hart on Christian Nationalism</title><content type='html'>Jordan Hylden &lt;a href="http://www.firstthings.com/article/2011/12/unconservative-evangelicals"&gt;reviews, for First Things&lt;/a&gt;, D. G. Hart's "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Billy-Graham-Sarah-Palin-Evangelicals/dp/080286628X"&gt;From Billy Graham to Sarah Palin:  Evangelicals and the Betrayal of American Conservatism&lt;/a&gt;." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The passage that the title to this blog post describes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And as Hart shows, their tendency to replace the Church with America led many evangelicals, like best-selling writer Peter Marshall Jr., to embark on a quixotic historical quest for America’s origins as a “Christian nation.” Evangelicals began to churn out an endless stream of books purporting to set forth “God’s plan for America” and a blueprint for “biblical” politics, with precious little attention to the finer points of the American experience or to political theory in general. Their historic optimism and impatience led them to embrace various ill-considered political ventures, like the Moral Majority, that tended to function better as target practice for liberals than as viable political movements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8936943333953641362?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8936943333953641362/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8936943333953641362&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8936943333953641362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8936943333953641362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/hylden-on-hart-on-christian-nationalism.html' title='Hylden on Hart on Christian Nationalism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-737697114364735904</id><published>2011-12-29T16:19:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:27:22.090-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tubbs&apos; Posts'/><title type='text'>Did Washington Ask God for Help at His First Inauguration?</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cbOmV5Sl4Mo/TvzzWiPvCBI/AAAAAAAAAjE/oIqaCtqqMW0/s1600/George+Washington.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cbOmV5Sl4Mo/TvzzWiPvCBI/AAAAAAAAAjE/oIqaCtqqMW0/s320/George+Washington.jpg" width="196" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Whether George Washington invoked God's name at the end of his official presidential oath has become a debate that obscures a more obvious truth, one that sheds light more on the man himself than on any ideological agenda in today's so-called Culture War. The man who took the oath of office in April 1789 was scared to death of what might become of his beloved country and his almost equally beloved reputation. He wanted all the providential help he could get.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Did Washington Say "So Help Me God"?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did George Washington add "so help me God" to the presidential oath? That question has become one of the flashpoints in today's so-called Culture War. And American Creation's Ray Soller continues the debate in a well-researched, articulate response (see "Jerry-Rigging the Presidential Oath With The Wall Builders") to David Barton's claim that Washington indeed said the words (see "&lt;a href="http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=102750" target="_blank"&gt;Did George Washington Actually Say 'So Help Me God' During His Inauguration?&lt;/a&gt;"). (Note: I would link to Mr. Soller's article, but the title link goes to a different post by Mr. Soller than the one I'm trying to reference).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've blogged about Washington's first inauguration before (see "&lt;a href="http://americanfounding.blogspot.com/2010/04/facts-about-george-washingtons.html" target="_blank"&gt;Facts About George Washington's Inauguration&lt;/a&gt;") and have addressed the issue of Washington and SHMG in numerous posts and discussions here at American Creation. There's little value in repeating all that again. I will simply say that I believe Washington said the words, but I acknowledge I can't prove it. No one can prove the issue one way or the other. But, if I may ask your indulgence, let's take a moment and reflect on this question from a different angle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Wrong Question?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion, the issue of whether Washington said "so help me God" is a pointless dispute in the so-called Culture War. Those who want a completely secular presidential oath already have their wish, in that the legal oath, as prescribed in the Constitution, makes no mention of God. What's more, the Constitution expressly forbids any religious test for federal office. It is unconstitutional and improper for the one administering the oath to require or demand (by coercision, intimidation, or manipulation) that the President-elect append "so help me God" to the oath. Those who desire a secular presidential oath already have their wish.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likewise, for faith-oriented conservatives caught up in the so-called Culture War, this is the wrong battle. So what if George Washington added "so help me God" to the presidential oath? For the first time around, he probably did. The second time around, he probably didn't. Then again, he may not have said "so help me God" at either time. Do social conservatives really want to pin so much on this one dispute?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean no disrespect to anyone with strong feelings on this issue. I applaud the desire of anyone to get at the truth, to uncover the facts, and/or to better understand our nation's history. Ray Soller here at American Creation has done a commendable job in pointing out the lack of evidence surrounding the assumption made by many over the years that Washington added "so help me God" to the presidential oath. And Mr. Soller does well in responding to David Barton's latest attempt to argue that the Washington SHMG tradition is accurate. Nevertheless, after reading the arguments of both men, I once again come to the inescapable truth that neither side can provide verifiable proof. We just don't know whether Washington said the words or not. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I personally like how Ron Chernow handles the issue in his biography &lt;i&gt;Washington: A Life&lt;/i&gt;. Chernow writes: "Legend has it that [Washington] added 'So help me God,' though this line was first reported sixty-five years later. Whether or not Washington actually said it, very few people would have heard him anyway, since his voice was soft and breathy." Nicely done. I personally would've said "tradition" instead of "legend," but I like how Chernow handles the matter, especially how he only devotes a couple sentences to it, and then moves on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The debate over Washington and SHMG will likely continue, but I don't think this calls for the kind of emotion that's been devoted to it. If Washington said "so help me God," that doesn't change the fact that the Constitution itself (which supersedes Washington in authority and importance) doesn't call for the words to be added. Even if Washington added "so help me God," everyone present would've understood it to be a personal addition to the legally prescribed oath. Washington's addition (if indeed he said the words) did not alter the official oath, nor did it change the Constitution's prohibition of a religious test. When a President-elect says "so help me God" after the oath, he is simply adding his personal sentiment. He's not writing law. He is asking God to help him fulfill his legal obligations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, if Washington did &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; say "so help me God," that hardly makes him a secular Deist who wanted to distance God from government. Washington's First Inaugural Address, which contains overt religious themes, puts to rest any possible misunderstanding along those lines. No matter whether Washington said the words "so help me God" or not, the historical fact is that the first President of the United States wove religious imagery and sentiment into his inauguration. No one can dispute this, as the record is abundantly clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Glimpse into Washington's Mind&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YNNJ7TwYwSM/TvzzyTMUWFI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/GMtX32B2ii0/s1600/washing.gif" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YNNJ7TwYwSM/TvzzyTMUWFI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/GMtX32B2ii0/s1600/washing.gif" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Fisher Ames recorded that Washington looked "grave, almost to sadness" at the time of his inauguration. One senator said the President-elect was "agitated and embarrassed." These men noticed how Washington felt, which was, as he confessed to his friend Henry Knox, as a "culprit who is going to the place of his execution." Washington felt the enormous strain of responsibility being thrust upon his shoulders, along with the unrealistic expectations of so many of his countrymen. Who wouldn't be a little stressed? And who wouldn't want a little help?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe this is what we are missing when we debate the issue of "so help me God." If Washington indeed said the words, it wasn't to make some kind of political point, and I think he'd be very disappointed if activists today tried to do so. Rather, Washington was genuinely vexed, and he sincerely needed help from Divine Providence. This much is certain when one looks at the &lt;a href="http://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=true&amp;amp;doc=11&amp;amp;page=transcript" target="_blank"&gt;Inaugural Address&lt;/a&gt; itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In his Inaugural Address, the newly sworn-in President confessed that "no event could have filled me with greater anxieties" than being called upon to serve as President. He referred to the "the magnitude and difficulty of the trust to which the voice of my country called me" and cited his own "inferior endowments." He admitted he was "peculiarly conscious of his own deficiencies," and in that context, he moved to the religious portion of his speech, in which he declared:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;"Such being the impressions under which I have, in obedience to the public summons, repaired to the present station, it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes, and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success the functions allotted to his charge."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn't Washington trying to be a culture warrior. It's Washington confessing his fear and anxiety (albeit in a strained, formal, 18th century manner) and confidently asserting that God can compensate for "every human defect." To the extent that this is a statement in the so-called Culture War today, it's only because the United States has become more culturally and religiously diverse - and more distant from our heritage (the latter not necessarily being a good thing). In the 18th century, no one would've heard these words with offense. They would've welcomed them as an affirmation of Washington's humility and faith, qualities they desired in a leader. If one were to ask the attendees that day if they heard or thought Washington had asked God for help after his inauguration, all of them would have pointed to his Inaugural Address as opposed to what he may or may not have whispered following the legal oath.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether Washington said "so help me God" or not after his oath is simply not a relevant issue to the Culture War. For that matter, neither is the debate over the painting of Washington praying at Valley Forge. The painting may very well be apocryphal in how it depicts Washington, but does anyone seriously doubt Washington &lt;i&gt;prayed&lt;/i&gt; during the long winter at Valley Forge - at least once or twice!? Washington was a man of prayer, and there were times in his life (such as at Valley Forge and when taking the oath of office as President) that he needed God and turned to prayer. No credible historian disputes this. The evidence is clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once again, I mean no disrespect to anyone engaged in this debate. I commend both Mr. Barton and Mr. Soller for well-written essays. Mr. Soller, in particular, has written extensively on the subject, and I applaud his research. But I do (respectfully) feel we're losing sight of the forest for the trees. When it comes to Washington's inauguration, let's not allow a peripheral debate to obscure what is of much greater interest and importance, that of gaining insight into the mind of George Washington and the extraordinary challenges he faced when becoming our first President.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-737697114364735904?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/737697114364735904/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=737697114364735904&amp;isPopup=true' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/737697114364735904'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/737697114364735904'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/did-washington-ask-god-for-help-at-his.html' title='Did Washington Ask God for Help at His First Inauguration?'/><author><name>Brian Tubbs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15412421076480479001</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0Qh0lOPyrZk/SsJm9SkVwfI/AAAAAAAAAZA/IL789BWfCPs/S220/100_BTubbs.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cbOmV5Sl4Mo/TvzzWiPvCBI/AAAAAAAAAjE/oIqaCtqqMW0/s72-c/George+Washington.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-7726770627079479140</id><published>2011-12-28T15:30:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:29:44.067-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>Smithsonian Video on the Jefferson Bible</title><content type='html'>Below I've embedded an outstanding video from the Smithsonian on the Jefferson Bible:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update:  I "unembedded" the video because it would start automatically and that annoyed some folks.  Instead I link to it &lt;a href="http://www.smithsonianmag.com/multimedia/videos/Conserving-the-Jefferson-Bible.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-7726770627079479140?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/7726770627079479140/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=7726770627079479140&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/7726770627079479140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/7726770627079479140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/smithsonian-video-on-jefferson-bible.html' title='Smithsonian Video on the Jefferson Bible'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2208220028475401494</id><published>2011-12-28T15:17:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:29:44.068-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>David Barton adds to history and the Bible at the same time</title><content type='html'>From Warren Throckmorton &lt;a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2011/12/22/david-barton-adds-to-history-and-the-bible-at-the-same-time/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2208220028475401494?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2208220028475401494/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2208220028475401494&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2208220028475401494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2208220028475401494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/david-barton-adds-to-history-and-bible.html' title='David Barton adds to history and the Bible at the same time'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-9166730123876516237</id><published>2011-12-28T12:20:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:29:44.069-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>God, Government and Roger Williams' Big Idea</title><content type='html'>Not just religious liberty, but separation of church and state.  Check it this latest article on Williams &lt;a href="http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/God-Government-and-Roger-Williams-Big-Idea.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-9166730123876516237?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/9166730123876516237/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=9166730123876516237&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/9166730123876516237'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/9166730123876516237'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/god-government-and-roger-williams-big.html' title='God, Government and Roger Williams&apos; Big Idea'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6813614258991992066</id><published>2011-12-26T13:18:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-26T13:18:25.160-07:00</updated><title type='text'>GW, Not Whig Enough For Murray Rothbard</title><content type='html'>I agree more with the tenor of &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-christmas-from-george-washington.html"&gt;Brian's post&lt;/a&gt; than &lt;a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard171.html"&gt;Murray's&lt;/a&gt;.  However, it does help to have both sides to put things into critical perspective.  By the way, during the Founding era, the criticism against Washington was primarily directed by the Tories.  For Murray Rothbard, on the other hand, Washington seemed to be not Whig enough.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6813614258991992066?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6813614258991992066/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6813614258991992066&amp;isPopup=true' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6813614258991992066'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6813614258991992066'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/gw-not-whig-enough-for-murray-rothbard.html' title='GW, Not Whig Enough For Murray Rothbard'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6563160854914262434</id><published>2011-12-25T21:47:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:27:22.091-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tubbs&apos; Posts'/><title type='text'>Merry Christmas from George Washington</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6ar_gQHXHVw/Tvf7wxjsDmI/AAAAAAAAAig/n5lPnYbVvAc/s1600/General_George_Washington.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6ar_gQHXHVw/Tvf7wxjsDmI/AAAAAAAAAig/n5lPnYbVvAc/s320/General_George_Washington.jpg" width="249" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;You've heard the phrase "the gift that keeps on giving." Those of us living in the United States continue to enjoy two wonderful Christmas gifts bestowed upon our nation over 200 years ago, and both gifts come to us from George Washington.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Indispensable Legacy of George Washington&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of us who live in the United States of America take many things for granted. Among them is the fact that we live in a sovereign nation, which enjoys a routine and peaceful transfer of power. Another is that we have a military that is subordinate to civilian authority. No nation is perfect, and the United States has obviously endured a bloody civil war as well as its share of corruption, bigotry, discrimination, etc. Yet, the United States has achieved a stunning degree of stability and prosperity that many other nations of the world could only dream of, and it has done so in a relatively short amount of time. While no individual is single-handedly responsible for all these things, I would like to suggest that one man does stand head and shoulders above the rest in having made not only a noticeable contribution, but an indispensable one. He didn't do it alone, but it's hard to imagine others making the contributions as well as he did in his stead. In every sense of the term, George Washington is indispensable to American history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Battle of Trenton: Washington's First Christmas Gift&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two hundred thirty-five years ago this night (December 25) at 11pm, General George Washington led 2,400 men in a desperate, all-night crossing of the icy Delaware River. Washington's audacious attack routed the Hessians the next morning at Trenton, literally saving the American Revolution. If Washington had not rolled the dice to attack the Hessians, it's likely the American Revolution would've fizzled in 1777. His army was about to disintegrate due to desertions and the expiration of enlistments. In fact, Washington had already lost close to 90 percent of his army as it was battered, humiliated, and chased out of Long Island. The American Revolution was all but over. Washington himself had written his brother that the "game" was just about "up." There's a reason why he chose "Victory or Death" as the password that night. He knew that if he did nothing, the Revolution would fail. And he knew that if he did something bold and failed, the Revolution would fail. He absolutely had to win at Trenton. And he did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XbQkgBPaAY4/Tvf78JKKxRI/AAAAAAAAAis/lYZvCCI8iwA/s1600/battle-of-trenton-4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="204" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XbQkgBPaAY4/Tvf78JKKxRI/AAAAAAAAAis/lYZvCCI8iwA/s320/battle-of-trenton-4.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As historian David Hackett Fischer rightly says of the Battle of Trenton: "No single day in history was more decisive for the creation of the United States than Christmas 1776." It was one of two Christmas gifts George Washington gave to the United States of America. We are still enjoying the gift today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Washington's Christmas Farewell in 1783&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In December 1783, with the completion of the Treaty of Paris which formally concluded the American Revolution and after talking down a would-be coup d'etat at Newburgh, Washington found himself in a position of being able to retire and go home with honor.&amp;nbsp;Washington had already resisted the suggestion that he become dictator or king. With the Treaty of Paris confirmed, the war had been won. The United States had been granted its independence. And it set the stage for what historian Stanley Weintrab calls Washington's "Christmas Farewell."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When General George Washington resigned his commission before Congress on December 23, 1783, he did what few revolutionary leaders had ever done or have done since. He became, as one historian put it, one of the only leaders of an armed revolution to leave power "vertically instead of horizontally." When King George III heard of Washington's resignation, he called him "the greatest man alive" or "the greatest character of his age."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Americans today take for granted a military that is subordinate to Constitutional and civilian authority. This is not so in other nations of the world. In fact, it wasn't even the case with civilizations that our Founders partly modeled. Romans, anyone? Yet we take for granted that our military leaders will follow orders and respect civilian leaders, no matter how much they may disagree with those civilian authorities. This is in large part due to Washington's example...his legacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1spUnvn06JE/Tvf8N7ApPaI/AAAAAAAAAi4/GJBbFKxEZ84/s1600/Washington_Resigning_His_Commission_1783.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="220" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1spUnvn06JE/Tvf8N7ApPaI/AAAAAAAAAi4/GJBbFKxEZ84/s320/Washington_Resigning_His_Commission_1783.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;What's more, the entire concept of a peaceful transfer of power is something ingrained in our nation's DNA. It was put there by George Washington! He did it the first time in December 1783 and, again, in the mid-1790s after serving two terms as President of the United States.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Greatest Character of His Time (and Arguably Ours)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;King George III was right. There was no man of that era quite like George Washington. In fact, the United States of America still hasn't had a leader quite like George Washington. Yes, we've been blessed by great leaders, such as Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr., but these men (and other great leaders like them) were able to accomplish much of what they did on a stage that was made possible by George Washington!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even the two "Christmas gifts" I've mentioned only speak to part of Washington's legacy. I alluded to Newburgh, without going into any detail. What Washington did at Newburgh alone was of supreme importance to the future of the United States. For that alone, he deserves every monument erected in his honor and every road or school that's been given his name. When you add the other things as well, his legacy is overwhelming and virtually unimpeachable. No other figure in U.S. history comes close. George Washington is the greatest and most indispensable leader in American history, and he's one of the greatest human beings to have ever lived.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6563160854914262434?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6563160854914262434/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6563160854914262434&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6563160854914262434'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6563160854914262434'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-christmas-from-george-washington.html' title='Merry Christmas from George Washington'/><author><name>Brian Tubbs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15412421076480479001</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0Qh0lOPyrZk/SsJm9SkVwfI/AAAAAAAAAZA/IL789BWfCPs/S220/100_BTubbs.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6ar_gQHXHVw/Tvf7wxjsDmI/AAAAAAAAAig/n5lPnYbVvAc/s72-c/General_George_Washington.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-207509843165823798</id><published>2011-12-25T11:14:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-25T11:16:42.048-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Merry Christmas from American Creation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mNVrtgGAUfM/TvdoAiiSBGI/AAAAAAAAEMs/35vJdGBL9io/s1600/christmas.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 260px; height: 195px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mNVrtgGAUfM/TvdoAiiSBGI/AAAAAAAAEMs/35vJdGBL9io/s320/christmas.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5690131012685792354" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Wherever you are, and however you are choosing to celebrate, have a wonderful holiday season and a safe and prosperous 2012. To all of out contributors, readers and friends, thank you for all the great memories in 2011. Though I have never met a single one of you I consider you friends. God bless and best wishes to you and yours!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-207509843165823798?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/207509843165823798/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=207509843165823798&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/207509843165823798'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/207509843165823798'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-christmas-from-american-creation.html' title='Merry Christmas from American Creation'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mNVrtgGAUfM/TvdoAiiSBGI/AAAAAAAAEMs/35vJdGBL9io/s72-c/christmas.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2116345598478904018</id><published>2011-12-25T07:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:29:44.070-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>Merry Unitarian Christmas</title><content type='html'>The last few Christmas holidays I posted &lt;a href="http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2010/12/24/have-yourself-a-merry-unitarian-christmas/"&gt;Merry Unitarian Christmas&lt;/a&gt; to some &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/12/merry_unitarian_christmas.php"&gt;raised eyebrows&lt;/a&gt;.  Well, &lt;a href="http://lakechalice.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-unitarian-christmas.html"&gt;here is one today&lt;/a&gt; from a Unitarian-Universalist minister.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2116345598478904018?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2116345598478904018/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2116345598478904018&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2116345598478904018'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2116345598478904018'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-unitarian-christmas.html' title='Merry Unitarian Christmas'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2331785066947911127</id><published>2011-12-24T16:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-24T16:48:08.798-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Merry Christmas from the Moon</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;Remembering the important things, as these men did, seems longer ago and even farther away with each passing year, and to some, even more silly. But Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all those here gathered anyway, and may we smile today, give thanks, and be inspired in the coming year to perpetuate their silliness...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1616/516/1600/Rise2.0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1616/516/400/Rise2.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; It was on Christmas Eve 1968 that the astronauts of Apollo 8, Frank Borman, Jim Lovell, and Bill Anders, became the first of mankind to see an earthrise from the orbit of the moon, and looking back on us, they spoke these words:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anders: &lt;i&gt;"We are now approaching lunar sunrise. And, for all the people back on earth, the crew of Apollo 8 have a message that we would like to send to you...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth. And the Earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light; and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lovell: &lt;strong&gt;"And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Borman: &lt;strong&gt;"And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear; and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas: and God saw that it was good."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas, and God bless all of you, all of you on the good earth."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is good. God bless us, every one.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2331785066947911127?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2331785066947911127/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2331785066947911127&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2331785066947911127'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2331785066947911127'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/merry-christmas-from-moon.html' title='Merry Christmas from the Moon'/><author><name>Tom Van Dyke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/111/1485/320/TVDH.2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6117943510074331975</id><published>2011-12-24T10:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-24T10:31:00.988-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Thomas Jefferson's version of the Nativity story</title><content type='html'>Taken from his redaction of the Gospels, commonly known as the Jefferson Bible:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And it came to pass in those days that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem (because he was of the house and lineage of David,)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;And she brought forth her first-born son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger: &amp;nbsp;because there was no room them in the inn.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;As with his usual approach in his Gospel redaction, Jefferson has eliminated any trace of the miraculous in regard to Jesus' birth. &amp;nbsp;No angels harkening, no shepherds in the field by night, no miraculous conception -- yet at the same time the power of the story of Jesus' birth comes through: &amp;nbsp;the dictates of an occupying power greedy for taxes, the sojourn of the Holy Family to Bethlehem, the culmination of Providence in the timing of the birth, the holy Infant swaddled in a manger because there were not lodgings for the family at the inn. &amp;nbsp;What a powerful story, even without the miracles. &amp;nbsp;A story of a birth that, even when told without the trumpets and angels, was no ordinary birth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6117943510074331975?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6117943510074331975/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6117943510074331975&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6117943510074331975'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6117943510074331975'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/thomas-jeffersons-version-of-nativity.html' title='Thomas Jefferson&apos;s version of the Nativity story'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5858753007513855753</id><published>2011-12-24T06:23:00.009-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:30:13.511-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Soller&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Jerry-rigging the Presidential Oath with the Wall Builders</title><content type='html'>Over at the Wall Builders blog, David Barton has recently posted an article, &lt;a href="http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=102750&amp;amp;utm_source=WallBuilders+Mailings&amp;amp;utm_campaign=b3dacdda6b-So_Help_Me_God12_15_2011&amp;amp;utm_medium=email#R10"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Did George Washington Actually Say “So Help Me God” During His Inauguration?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, complete with an entourage of 56 endnotes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Barton starts out by saying:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In December 2008 following the election of Barack Obama as president, noted atheist Michael Newdow filed suit to prohibit religious acknowledgments or activities from being part of the inaugural ceremonies, specifically seeking to halt the inclusion of “So help me God” as part of the presidential oath as well as halt inaugural prayers by clergy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should be noted for the sake of clarity, this statement is only half true. The &lt;i&gt;Newdow v. Roberts&lt;/i&gt; lawsuit did not generally seek "to halt the inclusion of 'So help me God' as part of the presidential oath." To be more specific, the lawsuit wanted Chief Justice John Roberts to administer the presidential oath without inflating the oath with four extra-constitutional words. On the other hand, if President Obama chose to add "So help me God" on his own, then there was no objection, just as there would be no objection to whether a president independently chooses to raise his right hand; swear his oath on either no, one, or two Bibles; have his spouse hold the book, or just have it nearby; or reverently kiss the Bible while the book is either in an open or closed position.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Soon after Barton's introduction, he goes into an &lt;i&gt;us-against-them&lt;/i&gt; mindset, where the &lt;i&gt;us-people&lt;/i&gt; support the perspective of those who "have affirmed that 'so help me God' is a traditional practice dating back to George Washington," and &lt;i&gt;them-people&lt;/i&gt;, who, like Michael Newdow and Mathew Goldstein, claim there is “no eyewitness documentation he &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[Washington]&lt;/span&gt; ever added ‘so help me God’ &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[to his oath of office].”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barton identifies Chief Historian &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[Donald R. Kennon - 2005]&lt;/span&gt; of the United States Capitol Historical Society, the Library of Congress &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[(Marvin Kranz-2005) under the direction of the Senate Rules Committee]&lt;/span&gt;, the U. S. Supreme Court (and numbers of its Justices &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[i.e. Saclia, &amp;amp; Rehnquist]), &lt;/span&gt;the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[(namely, Donald Ritchie, Senate Historical Office) under the thumb of the Senate Rules Committee], &lt;/span&gt;the Architect of the Capitol &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[under the direction of the Senate Rules Committee], &lt;/span&gt;and other notables &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[say, like Kenneth C. Davis, David McCullough, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, and Michele Bachmann]"&lt;/span&gt; as being in the &lt;i&gt;us-people&lt;/i&gt; column. In contrast, he puts Michael Newdow, Mathew Goldstein, &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[Cathy Lynn Grossman]&lt;/span&gt; USA Today, Jim Bendat, Peter R. Henriques, and Charles Haynes in the &lt;i&gt;them-people&lt;/i&gt; column.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;What Barton fails to recognize regarding his two-column mindset is that it is woefully out of date. He would have been better informed if he had kept up with my blogs, where I have notified the reader that both Donald Kennon of USCHS (see &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/01/historical-perspectives-on-inaugural.html"&gt;my 1/19/2009 blog&lt;/a&gt;) and the Library of Congress (see &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2010/12/two-notable-events-regarding.html"&gt;my 12/14/2010 blog&lt;/a&gt;) have moved over into the &lt;i&gt;them-people&lt;/i&gt; column. He could also have learned from other sources that Charlene B. Bickford, Director of the First Federal Congress Project, George Washington University (see &lt;a href="http://www.restorethepledge.com/live/litigation/inaugural/docs/2009-02-23%20Appendix%20G%20(2005%20email%20with%20C%20Bickford).pdf"&gt;Newdow v. Roberts, &lt;i&gt;Appendix G&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and Edward Lengel, editor-in-chief of The Papers of George Washington, University of Virginia, (see &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/books/inventing-george-washington-by-edward-g-lengel-review.html?pagewanted=all"&gt;3/21/2011 NY Times &lt;i&gt;Books of the Times&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) are squarely in the &lt;i&gt;them-people&lt;/i&gt; column.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Barton continues by taking pot-shots at Newdow's lawsuit whichever way he can. He brings out a cavalcade of states whose colonial regulations, original state constitutions, and "legal requirements for &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[religious test]&lt;/span&gt; oathtaking specifically stipulated that “So help me God!” be part of the official oath of all legal process, whether the oaths were taken by elected officials, appointed judges, jurors, or witnesses in a court of law." What Barton doesn't mention is that not all of the original thirteen states took it for granted that an obligatory acknowledgement of God was a necessary religious test for public office. In deed, some states made a special allowance for religious dissenters, like the Quakers, who strongly objected to swearing an oath, and then others who, even more strenuously, objected to include the "irreverent" non-biblical phrase, "So help me God." Furthermore, what's obscured by Barton's blindspot is the fact that the 1776Virginia Constitution was the only state constitution, which, not only, did not require a religious test oath, but didn't even require an oath for public office. Consequently, it can't be too surprising that the delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, with George Washington presiding, and with Madison promoting the Virginia Plan, produced a document that failed to mention "God" either as part of the presidential oath, or in any other instance, and specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, with this background in mind, let's go back to where Barton describes Washington's swearing-in ceremony:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The [inaugural] ceremony was conducted on the balcony at Federal Hall; and with a huge crowd gathered below watching the proceedings, the &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[London published King James Masonic]&lt;/span&gt; Bible was laid upon a crimson velvet cushion held by Samuel Otis, Secretary of the Senate. New York Chancellor Robert Livingston then administered the oath of office. (He was one of the five Founders who drafted the Declaration of Independence, but had been called back to New York to help guide his state through the Revolution before he could affix his signature to the document he had helped write. Because Livingston was the highest ranking judicial official in New York, he was chosen [or, more likely, nominated himself] to administer the oath of office to President Washington.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[dot - dot - dot]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other states &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[besides CT, GA, NC, SC]&lt;/span&gt; had similar requirements, but consider those in place in NEW YORK when President Washington was sworn in by the state’s top judicial official. At that time, New York law required that “the usual mode of administering oaths” be followed (i.e., “So help me God”) and that the person taking the oath place his hand upon the Gospels and then kiss the Gospels at the conclusion of the oath. &amp;lt;33&amp;gt; (Like the other states, these provisions remained the legal standard long after the inauguration. &amp;lt;34&amp;gt;) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barton is dead wrong to think that "So help me God" was legislated as being a part of New York's “usual mode of administering oaths.” His own endnotes, when fully examined, prove the point. Here's endnote &amp;lt;33&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;33. Laws of the State of New-York (New York: Thomas Greenleaf, 1798), p. 21, “Chap. XXV: An Act to dispense with the usual mode of administering oaths, in favor of persons having conscientious scruples respecting the same, Passed 1st of April, 1778”; James Parker, Conductor&lt;br /&gt;Generalis: Or the Office, Duty and Authority of the Justices of the Peace (New York: John Patterson, 1788), pp. 302-304, “Of oaths in general.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the significant section from &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=sno4AAAAIAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA49&amp;amp;dq=1778+++gospels+kiss+%22new+york%22+oath#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=1778%20%20%20gospels%20kiss%20%22new" f="'false"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Laws of the state of New York: passed at the sessions of the Legislature&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (page 49):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;First Session - CHAP. 25.AN ACT to dispense with the usual mode of administering oaths in favour of persons having conscientious scruples respecting the same. Passed the 1st of April, 1778. Whereas many of the inhabitants of this State having conscientious scruples about the present mode of administering oaths by laying the hand on and kissing the gospels for the relief of all such persons &lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;[like members of the Dutch Reformed Church],&lt;/span&gt; Be it enacted by the People of the State of New-York represented in Senate and Assembly, and it is hereby enacted by the authority of the same That all and every person or persons impowered to administer oaths within this State, shall be and they hereby are empowered, authorized and required to tender and administer the said oaths to all such person or persons as shall declare they have such conscientious scruples, in the form following, to wit. The said person or persons shall with his her or their hand or hands uplifted &lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;swear by the everliving &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;God&lt;/span&gt; and shall not be compelled to lay his her or their hand or hands on the Gospels or kiss the same: And that all oaths to be administered agreeable to the mode prescribed by this act shall be and the' same are hereby declared to be as good valid and effectual to all intents and purposes, as if the same had been administered by laying the hand on, and kissing the Gospels. And all persons who being sworn agreeable to the said mode and shall be guilty of false swearing or wilful and corrupt perjury, and be convicted thereof shall incur and suffer the same pains penalties or punishments, as if they had been respectively sworn on the Holy Evangelists. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Here's endnote &amp;lt;34&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;34. George C. Edward, &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=yqnkAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA396&amp;dq=George+c+edwards+%22new+york%22+%22powers+and+duties%22+justices&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=N3n2ToS2D8bLtgf88eHNCQ&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&amp;q=George%20c%20edwards%20%22new%20york%22%20%22powers%20and%20duties%22%20justices&amp;f=false"&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Treatise on the Powers and Duties of Justices of the Peace and Town Officers, in the State of New York&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Ithaca: Mack, Andrus &amp;amp; Woodruff, 1836), p. 91, “Of the proceedings on the trial.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;A search on "usual mode" goes to page 91. The chapter heading is &lt;i&gt;Proceeedings on Trial&lt;/i&gt;. The chapter is talking about &lt;i&gt;courtroom proceedings&lt;/i&gt; after 1821. It is not talking about oaths for public office. A search through the entire book for "so help me God" comes up empty. The post - 1821 alternative is stated as "swear in the presence of the ever-living God," and, again, without "So help me God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, when Chancellor Livingston administered the presidential oath to George Washington, Livingston, as a New York State judicial officer, apparently followed "the usual mode of administering oaths," which meant that the oathtaker would place his hand on a Bible during the oath and then conclude the oath by kissing the book. This practice, more commonly known as the "book-oath, is what was reported as having occurred, and there is no contemporaneous report that says otherwise. Furthermore, four years later, when it came time for Washington's second inauguration that took place in Philadelphia, not only was there no mention of "So help me God," but, there was no mention of deity in Washington's inaugural address, no attendance at a church service, and no word of a bible as either being needed or present.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5858753007513855753?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-york-state-usual-mode-of.html' title='Jerry-rigging the Presidential Oath with the Wall Builders'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5858753007513855753/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5858753007513855753&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5858753007513855753'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5858753007513855753'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/jerry-rigging-presidential-oath-with.html' title='Jerry-rigging the Presidential Oath with the Wall Builders'/><author><name>Ray Soller</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07950061062767093373</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-92094833777978370</id><published>2011-12-23T17:10:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-23T17:14:00.980-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>George Washington approved eggnog recipe -- drink responsibly!</title><content type='html'>In the spirit (pun intended) of Jon's post below about Christmas revelry in early America, I thought I would offer &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2010/12/nothing-says-christmas-like-george.html"&gt;this post from last Christmas season here at American Creation&lt;/a&gt;. Washington liked his eggnog strong...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font: normal normal bold 20px/normal Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; position: relative;"&gt;Nothing says Christmas like George Washington's eggnog recipe&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="post-header" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;div class="post-header-line-1"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="post-body entry-content" id="post-body-327231590742190219" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 1.4; position: relative; width: 618px;"&gt;Courtesy of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.almanac.com/content/george-washingtons-christmas-eggnog" style="color: #221199; text-decoration: none;"&gt;Old Farmer's Almanac online&lt;/a&gt;, here is George Washington's very own recipe for eggnog.&amp;nbsp; Be warned, it is heavy on the spirits in keeping with the tastes and customs of the day, and he doesn't specify how many eggs to use.&amp;nbsp; Of course, this means you can adjust the eggs to your own taste and still claim complete colonial authenticity to your recreation of Washington's recipe:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;One quart cream, one quart milk, one dozen tablespoons sugar, one pint brandy, 1/2 pint rye whiskey, 1/2 pint Jamaica rum, 1/4 pint sherry—mix liquor first, then separate yolks and whites of eggs, add sugar to beaten yolks, mix well. Add milk and cream, slowly beating. Beat whites of eggs until stiff and fold slowly into mixture. Let set in cool place for several days. Taste frequently.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Love that last bit of advice from the Father of Our Country!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-92094833777978370?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/92094833777978370/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=92094833777978370&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/92094833777978370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/92094833777978370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/george-washington-approved-eggnog.html' title='George Washington approved eggnog recipe -- drink responsibly!'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2310690292028650420</id><published>2011-12-23T08:54:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:29:44.071-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>Do The Three Abrahamic Faiths Worship The Same God?</title><content type='html'>Interesting article &lt;a href="http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/berger/2011/12/14/do-the-three-abrahamic-faiths-worship-the-same-god/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2310690292028650420?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2310690292028650420/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2310690292028650420&amp;isPopup=true' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2310690292028650420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2310690292028650420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/do-three-abrahamic-faiths-worship-same.html' title='Do The Three Abrahamic Faiths Worship The Same God?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4033856732857285043</id><published>2011-12-23T08:10:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:29:44.072-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>Was Christmas in Revolutionary America a Drunken Bash?</title><content type='html'>Fun article from Thomas Kidd &lt;a href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Christmas-in-Revolutionary-America-a-Drunken-Bash-Thomas-Kidd-12-22-2011.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4033856732857285043?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4033856732857285043/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4033856732857285043&amp;isPopup=true' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4033856732857285043'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4033856732857285043'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/was-christmas-in-revolutionary-america.html' title='Was Christmas in Revolutionary America a Drunken Bash?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>19</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1885208509766166633</id><published>2011-12-22T17:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:28:08.935-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guest Bloggers'/><title type='text'>The Economist on the Christian Nation Controversy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/node/21541718"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;.  Hat Tip Ben Abbott.  A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;IN THE year of our Lord 1816 two grand old men of the American Revolution corresponded eagerly about the work they had recently done, in their rural retirement, on the Bible. Ex-President Thomas Jefferson thanked his old friend Charles Thomson, a co-sponsor of the Declaration of Independence, for sending a copy of his newly completed synopsis of the Gospels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At a time when many modern Americans are arguing feverishly over the real significance of the nation’s religious and political beginnings, such letters can be dynamite. So let the contents of this exchange be noted carefully. Thomson, like most members of the first American Congress, which he had served as secretary, was a committed member of a church—in his case Presbyterian—but he still felt that there might be things in the Bible that organised Christianity hadn’t grasped. So he spent years re-translating the scriptures; the ex-president approved.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1885208509766166633?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1885208509766166633/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1885208509766166633&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1885208509766166633'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1885208509766166633'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/economist-on-christian-nation.html' title='The Economist on the Christian Nation Controversy'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4341291967836579034</id><published>2011-12-20T13:34:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:27:22.092-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tubbs&apos; Posts'/><title type='text'>Obama Claims He's a Better President Than George Washington!</title><content type='html'>In a recent interview with CBS &lt;i&gt;60 Minutes&lt;/i&gt;, President Barack Obama said: "I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president — with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln — just in terms of what we’ve gotten done in modern history."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one takes this boast seriously, President Obama is saying that his accomplishments, particularly in the areas of foreign policy and what he's gotten through Congress, are thus far greater than those of&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt; every single one&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of his predecessors, except &lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;PERHAPS&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (note he says "possible exception") Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, and Lyndon Johnson. This means Barack Obama essentially considers himself a better President than George Washington! The first President of the United States doesn't even rank as a "possible exception" to Obama's sweeping boast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more on this incredible display of hubris, read "&lt;a href="http://americanfounding.blogspot.com/2011/12/is-barack-obama-fourth-best-president.html" target="_blank"&gt;Is Barack Obama the Fourth Best President? Obama Says His Accomplishments Rank Higher Than Those of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson&lt;/a&gt;" over at my blog, the &lt;a href="http://americanfounding.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"&gt;American Revolution &amp;amp; Founding Era&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4341291967836579034?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4341291967836579034/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4341291967836579034&amp;isPopup=true' title='54 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4341291967836579034'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4341291967836579034'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/obama-claims-hes-better-president-than.html' title='Obama Claims He&apos;s a Better President Than George Washington!'/><author><name>Brian Tubbs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15412421076480479001</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0Qh0lOPyrZk/SsJm9SkVwfI/AAAAAAAAAZA/IL789BWfCPs/S220/100_BTubbs.jpg'/></author><thr:total>54</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3902518239073824604</id><published>2011-12-20T08:31:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-20T08:32:38.658-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Monotheism &amp; Slavery</title><content type='html'>As I prepare to make a deadline for submitting the grades of 18 credits worth of classes (and beginning a new online Winter Session class that started Dec. 19), I don't have time to blog about or discuss &lt;a href="http://volokh.com/2011/12/19/religion-and-slavery/"&gt;this very interesting post from Volokh&lt;/a&gt; on how the monotheistic traditions deal with slavery. Check out the comments too.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3902518239073824604?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3902518239073824604/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3902518239073824604&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3902518239073824604'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3902518239073824604'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/monotheism-slavery.html' title='Monotheism &amp; Slavery'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1464668368465689425</id><published>2011-12-19T18:46:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T11:27:22.093-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tubbs&apos; Posts'/><title type='text'>Did the Founders Wish to Separate Religion and Government?</title><content type='html'>In light of the U.S. Constitution's prohibition of a religious test for federal office and the First Amendment's establishment clause, many Americans allege that the Founders saw no place for religion in government. This view is unfortunately fairly widespread in law schools, in many courts, and here on American Creation. In a recent blog post criticizing David Barton (a recurring theme here at AC), Brad Hart writes that "our Founding Fathers were smart enough to recognize the FACT that religion should have no place in government" (emphasis his). Brad is not alone. Several of my fellow bloggers here at AC, whom I respect, have embraced the idea of a fully secular public square, complete with a government that's not only neutral in terms of religious denominations or faith groups, but neutral on the issue of faith itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;What is Religion?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In order to assess whether the Founders believed "religion should have no place in government," we should first understand what is meant by "religion." If by using the term "religion," one is simply making the case that the U.S. government should not endorse Catholics over Protestants (or vice versa) or establish a state church, then such a case is definitely consistent with the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, and the eventual consensus of the American Founders. If, however, "religion" is broad enough to include belief in God in general as well as an official acknowledgment that our rights come from God and that we are accountable, in some way, to God, then we're talking about something else entirely.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Religious Belief is Inevitable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Part of the definition of religion, according to Dictionary.com, is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe." By this broad definition, humanism would certainly qualify as a religion. In fact, by this definition, every single human being possesses some type of "religious" view, because we're talking more about worldview than about the embracing of a specific supernatural entity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;A quote attributed to Noah Webster affirms this point. Webster is alleged to have said: "Every civil government is based upon some religion or philosophy of life." In researching this article, I was unable to find a primary source for this quote, so I can't confirm that Mr. Webster actually said it. Whether he did or not, though, I think it's an accurate statement. Every civil society that has ever existed is shaped by philosophical and religious assumptions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Founders Embraced Judeo-Christian Monotheism&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is a matter of historical fact that the Founding Fathers of the United States of America fully embraced monotheism, and their monotheistic framework was shaped primarily by a culture steeped in Judeo-Christian belief and tradition. And this Judeo-Christian monotheism was not incidental or peripheral to their efforts in erecting the United States. It was a worldview that was front and center, and was incorporated fully into the foundation of our Republic. One need only look to the colonial charters, the Declaration of Independence, and the state constitutions to confirm this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is factually incorrect to associate the view that "religion should have no place in government" with the Founding Fathers of the United States. It certainly wasn't George Washington's view, who declared in his Inaugural Address that the people of the United States were "bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States." Washington issued the first national Thanksgiving Proclamation after the U.S. Constitution, and said it was the "duty of all nations" to acknowledge God with worship and gratitude. And it was Washington, in his Farewell Address, who said that "religion and morality" were "indispensable" to "political prosperity." Doesn't sound like a guy who wanted religion completely separate from government. And, if I may, who are we to disagree with George Washington when it comes to discussing the original meaning of the Constitution or the intentions of our Founders?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Then, of course, there's Jefferson, who secularists love to quote as someone who promoted the separation of church and state. While Jefferson most certainly opposed anything that smacked of a Church of America, he nevertheless had no problem with Judeo-Christian monotheism being at the center of our Republic. Consider his famous question: "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis-a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God?" That sounds like a question of a &lt;i&gt;religious&lt;/i&gt; nature to me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Declaration of Independence makes it clear that the Founders believed in the existence of God and that our fundamental rights come from God. These are religious sentiments and they are enshrined into our founding document and, by consequence, our heritage and identity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It's the right of the American people today to decide to jettison the beliefs of the Founding Fathers. They would be wrong to do so, but it's their legal right. People are entitled to their opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts. It's legitimate to disagree with the Founders, but it's not right to redefine the values and beliefs of the Founders. On the issue of religion and government, the Founders have a right to speak for themselves, and they have done so.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1464668368465689425?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1464668368465689425/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1464668368465689425&amp;isPopup=true' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1464668368465689425'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1464668368465689425'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/did-founders-wish-to-separate-religion.html' title='Did the Founders Wish to Separate Religion and Government?'/><author><name>Brian Tubbs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15412421076480479001</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0Qh0lOPyrZk/SsJm9SkVwfI/AAAAAAAAAZA/IL789BWfCPs/S220/100_BTubbs.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5399296222240151813</id><published>2011-12-18T21:41:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-18T23:58:16.019-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hochberg&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>President Washington and the 'Masonic Bible'</title><content type='html'>&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KjvENebH44o/Tu6lxkbpXfI/AAAAAAAACm0/3PCh8X-VDTc/s1600/MagpieMasonBlog1GWBible.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="137" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KjvENebH44o/Tu6lxkbpXfI/AAAAAAAACm0/3PCh8X-VDTc/s400/MagpieMasonBlog1GWBible.JPG" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A King James Version of the Bible, containing the Old and New Testaments, the 'George Washington Inaugural Bible' was printed in the 1760s, and has been owned since then by St. John's Lodge No. 1 AYM in New York City. On April 30, 1789, George Washington took his first presidential oath of office upon this Bible, his hands resting at Genesis 49-50.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I had the good fortune to be in the presence of a certain Bible on Friday night, one that has been discussed on &lt;i&gt;American Creation&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/04/so-help-me-god.html"&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;. A cherished, priceless document we in Freemasonry call the George Washington Inaugural Bible was brought to a local Masonic lodge in New Jersey to display during a ceremony.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I just want to offer a quick post today to share a perspective that is new to me. Two, actually, but I'll begin at the beginning.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The George Washington Inaugural Bible, a King James Version containing the Old and New Testaments, has been owned by St. John's Lodge No. 1, Ancient York Masons, in New York City since the lodge purchased it from Baskett printers in London in 1767, for use as the lodge's altar Bible. It earned its nickname because on April 30, 1789, George Washington took his first presidential oath of office with his hands resting on the pages of this Bible, opened to Genesis 49-50, in a ceremony on Wall Street.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In a fraternal order that cherishes its history and its artifacts, this holy text enjoys a unique standing; whereas those Founding Fathers who were members of Masonic lodges left this world long ago, this Bible serves as a portal that grants us today the chance to touch them in their day. Well, almost. The Bible is handled only by select members of St. John's Lodge when they travel with it on the very few occasions it is allowed to travel. But it does travel, unlike so many other pieces permanently encased in glass or locked in vaults, never to reach their full value as educational tools and cultural touchstones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;One of those guardians on Friday night was my friend and Brother Piers Vaughan, who addressed the audience of approximately 150 to tell the history of this Bible, and his own thoughts on why this particular text came to hold its singular significance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BmIxFBBQSUU/Tu645Dr_fGI/AAAAAAAACm8/E8-0fYtA4dU/s1600/MagpieMasonBlog2pav.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BmIxFBBQSUU/Tu645Dr_fGI/AAAAAAAACm8/E8-0fYtA4dU/s200/MagpieMasonBlog2pav.JPG" width="131" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Piers Vaughan, in Masonic regalia, exhibits&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;a miniature replica of the historic George&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Washington Inaugural Bible, one that&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;features the autograph of George H.W. Bush.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Piers spoke of how the preparations for Washington's inauguration were planned to the most minute detail, even down to the quantities of hay and water required to refresh the horses in the procession. How could it be that the very instant of inauguration could be bereft of a Bible? It is a depth of thoughtlessness that seems too improbable to be taken seriously. Instead, argues Piers, the president-elect himself fashioned "an elegant solution" to a potential political and religious misstep. With the new American states characterized by different sectarian beliefs, the choice of one holy text over another in the performance of this swearing-in ceremony could have had repercussions throughout the land. But because of the very high esteem in which the public regarded Freemasonry, Washington's choice of a "Masonic Bible" would have been appreciated as the best obtainable ecumenical solution to the ceremonial dilemma.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And the second point that caught my ear Friday night was the ranking in which Piers placed this Bible in political and civic importance: third, after only the Declaration and the Constitution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;His reasoning is because Washington was created president of the United States with the assistance of this Bible, the Executive Branch of U.S. government was thereby embodied by him that very moment. Enlightened by this view, I now see the aspiration of the Declaration of Independence as prelude to the covenant of the Constitution, rendered in the flesh as a civilian, temporary, and elected chief executive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #211104; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13px;"&gt;▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼ ▲▼&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In other New York City news, I invite all the readers of &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;American Creation&lt;/span&gt; to attend a lecture at &lt;a href="http://www.frauncestavernmuseum.org/index.html"&gt;Fraunces Tavern Museum&lt;/a&gt; on Thursday, January 19 at 6:30 p.m.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SxQ-0YSenUE/Tu66hnoBbsI/AAAAAAAACnE/SXgBbmsGTok/s1600/fraunces.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SxQ-0YSenUE/Tu66hnoBbsI/AAAAAAAACnE/SXgBbmsGTok/s400/fraunces.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;From the publicity:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Most people are aware that Freemasonry is a centuries-old society cloaked in mystique, its brethren ever present in the sweep of history, but what exactly do Masons profess? Did Freemasonry inspire the War of Independence? Were all the Founding Fathers members of the Masonic fraternity?&amp;nbsp;Drawing from period literature, and with an insider's understanding of how Masonic lessons are imparted, Jay Hochberg, an officer in New York City's only Masonic lodge of research and education, will define and contextualize the Colonial Freemason's bond to his neighbor, his government, and his god.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Seating is limited to about 60, and no advance reservations are taken. Tickets are sold, at $10 per person, at the door. I'll be sure to publish a summary of my remarks here on &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;American Creation&lt;/span&gt; after the event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5399296222240151813?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/04/so-help-me-god.html' title='President Washington and the &apos;Masonic Bible&apos;'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5399296222240151813/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5399296222240151813&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5399296222240151813'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5399296222240151813'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/president-washington-and-masonic-bible.html' title='President Washington and the &apos;Masonic Bible&apos;'/><author><name>Magpie Mason</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01390264410632162085</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iBdXU-bTTR0/THfEH6aH7QI/AAAAAAAAB-I/_VbWJy8bjsk/S220/Newman.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KjvENebH44o/Tu6lxkbpXfI/AAAAAAAACm0/3PCh8X-VDTc/s72-c/MagpieMasonBlog1GWBible.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2864414032843538358</id><published>2011-12-18T11:06:00.007-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-18T12:23:47.518-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>David Cameron: "The U.K. is a Christian Nation"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hsDkgLI4vUw/Tu49oHZiD7I/AAAAAAAAELE/YoM3GdfUp2I/s1600/Britain.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 227px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hsDkgLI4vUw/Tu49oHZiD7I/AAAAAAAAELE/YoM3GdfUp2I/s320/Britain.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5687551138805714866" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;In a &lt;a href="http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/king-james-bible/"&gt;speech delivered last week at Oxford&lt;/a&gt; for the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, British Prime Minister David Cameron called for a "revival" of Christian values to counter Britain's "moral collapse." "We are a Christian country and we should not be afraid to say so" stated Cameron to an audience of more than 3000. Cameron also stated that he was a man "full of doubts" when it came to matters of faith, but that he was, nonetheless, a Christian:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I am a committed – but I have to say vaguely practising – Church of England Christian, who will stand up for the values and principles of my faith, but who is full of doubts and, like many, constantly grappling with the difficult questions when it comes to some of the big theological issues&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what I do believe is this. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The King James Bible is as relevant today as at any point in its 400 year history. And none of us should be frightened of recognising this. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[...]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are a Christian country. And we should not be afraid to say so. Let me be clear: I am not in any way saying that to have another faith – or no faith – is somehow wrong. I know and fully respect that many people in this country do not have a religion. And I am also incredibly proud that Britain is home to many different faith communities, who do so much to make our country stronger. But what I am saying is that the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[...]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Responsibility, hard work, charity, compassion, humility, self-sacrifice, love, pride in working for the common good and honouring the social obligations we have to one another, to our families and our communities, these are the values we treasure. Yes, they are Christian values. And we should not be afraid to acknowledge that. But they are also values that speak to us all – to people of every faith and none. And I believe we should all stand up and defend them. Those who oppose this usually make the case for secular neutrality. They argue that by saying we are a Christian country and standing up for Christian values we are somehow doing down other faiths.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/cameron-uk-is-a-christian-country"&gt;But not everyone agrees&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If values of a Christian country are shared by people of all faiths why the need to specifically label the country Christian? Why not say that we share a common morality and common values? Call it humanism, call it whatever you want - don't call it anything at all. Only this will unite us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the only reason to evoke Christianity is a desperate attempt to address the declining morality. But he falsely makes the classic polar argument 'it must be either this or god', just as people assume it must 'science or god'. There are alternatives - it just takes just a little bit of forward thinking and trust in mankind's ability to be a moral being.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;And from &lt;a href="http://richarddawkins.net/comments/900136"&gt;Richard Dawkins' website&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Firstly, the UK is not a Christian country except constitutionally - the Queen being the Head of State and the Head of the Church of England. We are not even a practising religious country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, the morals of the bible are, to put it generously, 'confused'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly, in any event, Christianity is not the basis of even the good parts of our 'moral code' given that concepts such as the 'golden rule' (like it or loathe it) pre-date monotheistic 'Abrahamic' religions by some distance.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;To be honest, I tend to side with Cameron on this one. One doesn't need to be an expert in British history to recognize just how important Christianity has been on Great Britain (and Europe in general). Heck, in many respects Christianity pre-dates the establishment of England, and certainly of Great Britain and the U.K. From Catholicism to Henry VIII's break with the church, from Elizabeth I's creation of the Church of England to the Puritans, Protestants, Methodists, Baptists, etc., etc., etc., the United Kingdom has a rich Christian heritage &lt;b&gt;AND&lt;/b&gt; founding. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So how does this relate to the United States? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously the history of Britain and the U.S. are joined at the hip, however, I still maintain that the United States, though incredibly religious in its own right, has a different founding than Europe. As I stated in a &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/02/america-was-planted-as-christian-nation.html"&gt;post a while back&lt;/a&gt;, America's PLANTING is certainly Christian in many respects (the Puritans being the prime example). However, America's FOUNDING was something different entirely. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, much of this debate boils down to semantics: what constitutes a "Christian", what constitutes a "Nation"? I maintain that if we look at America's founding from a traditional orthodox Christian perspective we cannot conclude that America was founded as a Christian nation (though England certainly was).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2864414032843538358?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2864414032843538358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2864414032843538358&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2864414032843538358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2864414032843538358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/david-cameron-uk-is-christian-nation.html' title='David Cameron: &quot;The U.K. is a Christian Nation&quot;'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hsDkgLI4vUw/Tu49oHZiD7I/AAAAAAAAELE/YoM3GdfUp2I/s72-c/Britain.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8008447497885534468</id><published>2011-12-16T08:35:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T13:01:53.061-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Christopher Hitchens</title><content type='html'>I will greatly miss him.  He was a brilliant, bon vivant, public intellectual and a "generalist"; but he was no historian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd never want to debate him in a face-2-face circumstance.  But he made some serious historical errors in the Christian nation debate.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence prove America was not founded to be a "Christian Nation" and that according to orthodox standards Franklin, Jefferson and Washington (all of whom Hitchens invokes below) were not "Christians."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, they also weren't "deists" (as Hitchens defines and understands the term).  They were "theists" (something Hitchens denies in the clip).  And Franklin was certainly not an "atheist" (something Hitchens claims below).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TqJFAlofXj0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8008447497885534468?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8008447497885534468/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8008447497885534468&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8008447497885534468'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8008447497885534468'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/christopher-hitchens.html' title='Christopher Hitchens'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/TqJFAlofXj0/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-908927180748492116</id><published>2011-12-15T06:08:00.007-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T06:39:03.371-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hart&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>David Barton and the "Black Robe Regiment"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FwuHgl4IvPs/TmY97p7s6SI/AAAAAAAAD9k/G5ngxwFIDPQ/s1600/The-Black-Robe-Regiment.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 320px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 180px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5649270877660703010" border="0" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FwuHgl4IvPs/TmY97p7s6SI/AAAAAAAAD9k/G5ngxwFIDPQ/s320/The-Black-Robe-Regiment.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It has been a while since I have posted anything on American Creation (my apologies). I've had some computer problems as of late and, as always, life gets busy. I am planning on getting back into the American Creation swing of things big time in 2012. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few weeks back, fellow blogger &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/09/rodda-and-barton-on-black-robe-regiment.html"&gt;Jon Rowe took note&lt;/a&gt; of a post by AC friend, &lt;a href="http://blackroberegiment.wallbuilders.com/"&gt;Chris Rodda&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://blackroberegiment.wallbuilders.com/"&gt;David Barton and the Black Robe Regiment&lt;/a&gt;. I may be mistaken but I never saw any followup material from Ms. Rodda on this subject. As a result, I decided to do my own brief inquiry into this topic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back in 2010, during his "Restoring Honor" rally, radio talk show personality, Glenn Beck proposed the "restoration" of "The Black Robe Regiment." &lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591785,00.html"&gt;According to Beck and Barton&lt;/a&gt;, the Black Robe Regiment were:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;the preachers [of the Revolution], because they wore black robes. Black preachers, white preachers — they all wore black probes. And the British specifically blamed the preachers for the American Revolution. That's where the title "Black Regiment" came from. One of the British officials talked about that. It's interesting that the British so hated the preachers — they claim if it hadn't been for the preachers, America would still be a happy British colony. So they blamed it on the preachers. When they come to America, they start to decimating churches. They went to New York City. Nineteen churches — they burned 10 to the ground. They went across Virginia burning churches. They went across New Jersey burning churches. Because they blamed these preachers.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;First off, Barton's claim that the British "specifically blamed the preachers for the American Revolution" is not entirely accurate. Sure, &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; British leaders blamed preachers but this was simply one in a huge host of scapegoats for the British. In reality, Barton's claim is based more on the current culture wars than on actual history. Barton and Beck, like their fellow Christian nationalists, need to "prove" that the American Revolution was a religious -- particularly Christian -- war/event, and to do so they make some questionable conclusions based on very weak evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On his &lt;a href="http://blackroberegiment.wallbuilders.com/the-original-brr/what-is-the-black-robed-regiment.aspx#FN1"&gt;website for the Black Robe Regiment&lt;/a&gt;, Barton provides a singular citation as "proof" that the British feared this "Black Robe Regiment." The citation comes from a Peter Oliver, who was a British official living in Boston. Oliver essentially labels the American clergy, who were sympathetic to revolution, as "Black Robes." But what Barton neglects to mention is the fact that Oliver labels them as such due to his belief that they had "replaced God at the pulpit with politics", a practice that both Barton and Beck are quite familiar with. Somehow, Barton is able to take the words of a single British official living in Boston and apply it to the entire British nation. In other words, if this Peter Oliver said it, all of Great Britain must have felt the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, Barton's claim that the British "decimated churches" is completely misleading. While it is true that the British (and more so their Hessian mercenaries) were responsible for the ransacking of a few American churches, it is NOT true that these churches were specifically targeted for their teachings. They were usually ransacked for goods and supplies or made into shelters or hospitals for soldiers; a common practice used by almost every army of the time. Heck, the Union Army would do the same during the Civil War yet nobody ever assumed religious persecution as the reason like Barton has with the British. Barton is simply implying that since the existing churches, located in battle ground areas of the war were damaged, this must therefore mean that the British disliked their teachings/religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XU8clyJPM6s/TmZOoVTB5CI/AAAAAAAAD9s/v3mOw1eQdtE/s1600/new-york-fire-1776.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 320px; FLOAT: right; HEIGHT: 194px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5649289237401560098" border="0" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XU8clyJPM6s/TmZOoVTB5CI/AAAAAAAAD9s/v3mOw1eQdtE/s320/new-york-fire-1776.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Reality is that just as many (if not more) churches were destroyed by rebel patriots who were either upset at the loyalist leanings of the clergy/parishioners or didn't want the church to fall into the hands of the British. When Barton mentions the "Nineteen churches" in New York that were burned to the ground, he neglects to tell his audience that many were burned as a result of the "Great Fire of 1776", which was most certainly started by rebel patriots (even George Washington blamed patriots for having caused the fire). For example, Trinity Church in New York (yes, the same Trinity Church made famous in the movie &lt;em&gt;National Treasure&lt;/em&gt; as the location of the buried treasure) was &lt;a href="http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/news/articles/1776-trinity-church-and-the-american-revolution"&gt;burned to the ground in 1776&lt;/a&gt; as a result of the Great Fire. Reverend Charles Inglis, assistant minister of Trinity Church, noted that the church's teachings of "passive obedience and no resistance" and "to watch and refute all publications disrespectful to the Government tending to a breach" were met with severe scorn by those who wanted revolution. In fact, the teachings of Trinity Church and other loyalist churches throughout New York (much of New York remained loyal to the King) were met with such severe scorn from patriots that Reverend Inglis and other clergy voted unanimously to shut the churches down. As Reverend Inglis stated:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;By omitting the prayers for the king, give that mark of disaffection to their sovereign. To have prayed for him had been rash to the last degree—the inevitable consequence had been a demolition of the churches, and the destruction of all who frequented them...I shut up the churches. Even this was attended with great hazard; for it was declaring, the strongest manner, our disapprobation of independency, and that under the eye of Washington and his army.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;In addition, Barton's source for "proof" that the British "decimated" churches comes primarily from the writings of &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=qQwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=daniel+dorchester+christianity+in+the+united+states&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=IFJmTsKPO4fMsQLW-6zDCg&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=new%20york%20churches%20burned&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;Daniel Dorchester&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=H92keUU_Xy8C&amp;amp;pg=PA332&amp;amp;source=gbs_toc_r&amp;amp;cad=4#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=black%20robe&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;Benjamin Franklin Morris&lt;/a&gt;: two 19th-century Christian advocates who, like Barton, were obsessed with "proving" that America was a Christian Nation. But what Barton neglects to note in his narrative is the fact that BOTH of these men ALSO noted that many of these churches, which were supposedly "decimated" by the British, were actually destroyed by American patriots:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The church at Crumpound was burned to save it from being occupied by the enemy. That of Mount Holly was burned by accident or design. The one at Princeton was taken possession of by the Hessian soldiers and stripped of its pew and gallery for fuel.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Apparently Barton would prefer that we believe in this version of the American Revolution than in reality:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2Py2LZNb79Q" frameborder="0" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Glenn Beck and David Barton &lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591785,00.html"&gt;discussed the formation&lt;/a&gt; of the Black Robe Regiment, they did so not out of a desire to reveal the truth of American history, but instead to push forward a political/religious agenda:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Apparently, the idea began with Beck's favorite historian, David Barton. When Beck told Barton he wanted to "get religious leaders together," Barton suggested forming a Black Robe Regiment -- named after what Barton had said was a group of preachers who supported the American Revolution from their pulpits. Beck decided that was "exactly" what he was looking for because it was a movement supposedly like his that was "not about politics."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;In short, Beck and Barton did what they have always done: hijack history and twist the truth in order to add legitimacy to their claims, and this piece of propaganda is the result:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7eA0_-7WCe4" frameborder="0" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for the "rights in the Declaration of Independence" coming from the clergy, Barton needs to go back to History, 101. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the DOI, cited Locke, Cicero, Montesquieu and other figures as "inspiration" for what he put into the DOI, but AT NO TIME did Jefferson give any kind of credit to the Bible or any other specific Christian teaching. And, perhaps more importantly, of the twenty-seven reasons for declaring Independence that are mentioned in the DOI, not a single one has anything to do with religion. Why? Because the American Revolution was NOT a religious war like so many involved in the culture wars want us to believe. It was a war over representation, taxation, ultimate sovereignty and a host of other reasons. But religion was NOT the cause of the Revolution. Yes, it may have been used to justify rebellion to the motherland but that was the extent of its usage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the video piece, Barton also states that Ministers were at the "forefront of everything that happened" during the Revolution. Uh, no. Of the 55 signers to the DOI, only one (John Witherspoon) was an actual minister (as opposed to Barton's claim that 27 were ministers). But for the record, just as many (if not more) ministers preached AGAINST revolution as those who were in favor. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In conclusion, I know that Barton and Beck probably mean well in their efforts to "restore" America's "forgotten heritage" and I don't necessarily disagree with their motives. With that said, the fact remains that their misuse of history does not help them in their quest. Twisting facts, misusing quotes, and fabricating events doesn't "restore" a damn thing. I share in Beck and Barton's belief that religion is the most awesome and influential power on earth and that it was EXTREMELY important to those of early America. However, our Founding Fathers were smart enough to recognize the FACT that religion should have no place in government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ok, Ms. Rodda and TVD, where did I go wrong? I trust you will help me sort out the bugs. =)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-908927180748492116?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/908927180748492116/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=908927180748492116&amp;isPopup=true' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/908927180748492116'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/908927180748492116'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/david-barton-and-black-robe-regiment.html' title='David Barton and the &quot;Black Robe Regiment&quot;'/><author><name>Brad Hart</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/104248329924023688770</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh6.googleusercontent.com/-esT3zx2KSNc/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/QtkVnOJ1twE/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FwuHgl4IvPs/TmY97p7s6SI/AAAAAAAAD9k/G5ngxwFIDPQ/s72-c/The-Black-Robe-Regiment.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5768237841885892228</id><published>2011-12-13T16:14:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.991-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Is This a Modified Form of Universalism?</title><content type='html'>I've heard it claimed by some folks who critizes this theory that it is; but &lt;a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/2011/12/11/is-there-only-one-way-to-god/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=is-there-only-one-way-to-god"&gt;Rod Dreher balks&lt;/a&gt;.  [Hat tip:  &lt;a href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/faith-in-many-routes-to-salvation-ctd.html"&gt;Andrew Sullivan&lt;/a&gt;.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe Orthodox Christianity is the fullest expression of the true path to salvation, liberation or paradise. But I don’t agree that only Orthodox Christians will find their way to salvation. My view is that God may save anyone, but that if anyone is saved, it is through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and through the mercy of God the Father, who, in his infinite wisdom and compassion, may choose to extend it to those who confessed Christ imperfectly, or who didn’t confess him at all. That, by the way, is the official teaching of the Catholic Church. It’s not the same thing as universalism, which holds that everyone will be saved, no matter what.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dreher is a convert from Roman Catholicism to capital O Orthodox Christianity.  It always helps to clarify terms.  Note also that there are Trinitarian Universalists (like Benjamin Rush) who believed, indeed, everyone will be saved (eventually) no matter what, but it will be through Christ's universal (as opposed to limited) atonement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, Dreher's link interestingly shows a strong majority of folks in America and internationally disagree with the idea that salvation is found ONLY in their religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;....“My faith or religion is the only true path to salvation, liberation or paradise.” Of people in all the countries polled, the only people who poll over 50 percent agreement are Saudis and Indonesians — and in Saudi Arabia, a stunning 25 percent disagree. In the US, only 32 percent agree with this statement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5768237841885892228?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5768237841885892228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5768237841885892228&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5768237841885892228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5768237841885892228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/is-this-modified-form-of-universalism.html' title='Is This a Modified Form of Universalism?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6911274202134226791</id><published>2011-12-11T06:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.991-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The New England Milton</title><content type='html'>I haven't yet read &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=X1FO1W5OohIC&amp;pg=PA41&amp;lpg=PA41&amp;dq=%22william+livingston%22+unitarian&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=O9FmE9iYMV&amp;sig=0uQdsb_GuoOVCb-k7K5eJsqWCAI&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=OhTkTu-7DKbq0gHwg8nCBQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=9&amp;ved=0CE4Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&amp;q=%22william%20livingston%22%20unitarian&amp;f=false"&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt; but it seems worthwhile.  The Founders were influenced by a great many minds and Milton was certainly one.  John Locke, Isaac Newton, Samuel Clarke, John Milton -- those are, in my opinion, the "rational Christians" of the early British Whig era who most influenced the Founders.  All were also, likely, not religiously correct on matters of orthodoxy or Trinity.  But were also closeted about that, giving more orthodox figures, like Timothy Dwight, grounds for "claiming" them.  That's one thing I got from gleaning this book -- Milton was one of those figures both sides wanted to claim.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6911274202134226791?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6911274202134226791/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6911274202134226791&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6911274202134226791'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6911274202134226791'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/new-england-milton.html' title='The New England Milton'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-943954021152934397</id><published>2011-12-09T16:57:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:56:18.133-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Naum&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The Idea of America: Reflections on the Birth of the United States</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lyUz4YTYL.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 166px; height: 250px;" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lyUz4YTYL.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At first glance, did not think I was going to enjoy this, even in spite of devouring and embracing Wood's other historical works (most recently, &lt;i&gt;Empire of Liberty&lt;/i&gt;), but this is an outstanding collection of essays on the creation of America. They range in chronology from the 1960s until the present time and explore themes like Roman (founders all big devotees and disciples of Cato, Cicero, etc.… able to recite lines and relished in theater enactments) influence on the founders, the "radicalism" of Paine and Jefferson, the American brew of Enlightenment, monarchy v. democracy (democracy simply had no historical precedent, except for the brief, crude and flawed Athenian model thousands of years earlier), democracy v. republic, etc.…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the "American Creation" story interests you, you will want to read this.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-943954021152934397?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/243318242' title='The Idea of America: Reflections on the Birth of the United States'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/943954021152934397/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=943954021152934397&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/943954021152934397'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/943954021152934397'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/idea-of-america-reflections-on-birth-of.html' title='The Idea of America: Reflections on the Birth of the United States'/><author><name>Naum</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06741963276339044331</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1fkIsWhm5WI/Swvs0XAI0DI/AAAAAAAAABE/u4UxZbmyxO0/S220/Jesus_LPcover.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2227107675014748259</id><published>2011-12-07T21:30:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-07T21:39:04.906-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>John Adams on Christianity and revelation</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://library.duke.edu/exhibits/sevenelections/images/John_Adams.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://library.duke.edu/exhibits/sevenelections/images/John_Adams.jpg" width="132" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;"The Christian religion, as I understand it, is the brightness of the glory and the express portrait of the character of the eternal, self-existent, independent, benevolent, all powerful and all merciful creator, preserver, and father of the universe, the first good, first perfect, and first fair. It will last as long as the world. &amp;nbsp;Neither savage nor civilized man, without a revelation, could ever have discovered or invented it. &amp;nbsp;Ask me not, then, whether I am a Catholic or Protestant, Calvinist or Arminian. &amp;nbsp;As far as they are Christians, I wish to be a fellow-disciple with them all."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Letter to Benjamin Rush, January 21, 1810, printed in &lt;i&gt;In God We Trust: &amp;nbsp;the Religious Beliefs and Ideas of the American Founding Fathers&lt;/i&gt;, edited by Norman Cousins (Harper &amp;amp; Bros.: 1958), pg. 101.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2227107675014748259?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2227107675014748259/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2227107675014748259&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2227107675014748259'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2227107675014748259'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/john-adams-on-christianity-and.html' title='John Adams on Christianity and revelation'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6136284498714753548</id><published>2011-12-07T15:36:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.992-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Paul Gottfried's New Book on Leo Strauss</title><content type='html'>Paul Gottfried has long been a cantankerous critic of Leo Strauss'.  He has &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1107017246/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=lewrockwell&amp;amp;camp=14573&amp;amp;creative=327641&amp;amp;linkCode=as1&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1107017246&amp;amp;adid=1NA73ND443HBTRVMEYCW&amp;amp;&amp;amp;ref-refURL="&gt;a new book coming out, published by Cambridge&lt;/a&gt;, on Strauss and his disciples.  Though a bit crankish in his opinions, Dr. Gottfried has &lt;a href="http://www2.etown.edu/Directory.aspx?sid=090a411b-5180-4de5-809f-c0a91f2d8a54"&gt;solid academic bona fides&lt;/a&gt;, and, in my opinion, always something interesting to say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read him write about his new book &lt;a href="http://lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried122.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6136284498714753548?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6136284498714753548/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6136284498714753548&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6136284498714753548'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6136284498714753548'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/paul-gottfrieds-new-book-on-leo-strauss.html' title='Paul Gottfried&apos;s New Book on Leo Strauss'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5865687876124051603</id><published>2011-12-07T15:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.992-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Kersch on “Goldilocks” Originalism</title><content type='html'>From Ken Kersch at Balkinization &lt;a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2011/12/conservative-movements-goldilocks.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;One of the most influential of these is what I will call “Goldilocks Originalism.” Conservative “Goldilocks” originalists do not orient themselves (in the first instance) in opposition to “living constitutionalists,” but rather in opposition to secularist, positivist, relativist, liberals and progressives. To these movement originalists, the fatal flaw of their antagonists is not that their constitutional theory leaves judges, in ruling in cases, unrestrained in imposing their politics rather than following the law (though Goldilocks originalists certainly believe that to be the case, and often say so), but rather that that the constitutional theory of their opponents severs the tie between our perpetually besieged nation and the only anchor that will truly hold -- the belief in (a Christian, or Judeo-Christian) God. In this, as they see it, the Founders, and the Founders’ Constitution, are squarely on their side.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The axis of opposition constructed by the conservative movement between those who revere the Founder’s (God-anchored) Constitution, and the secular, relativist, progressives is omnipresent on the contemporary political Right -- at the grassroots, to be sure, but also in a scholarly literature, not written, for the most part, by law professors, but rather by theologians and political theorists. There are three wellsprings of this vein of conservative originalist scholarship: 1) Evangelical Christianity; 2) Catholic Natural Law; and 3) Straussianism. Indeed, a highly ideological originalism that girds itself for battle against Godless secularism and relativism is what holds these three groups – which, historically, had long often been at each other’s throats – together, as compatriots in an effective political coalition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The orientating axis I have described is evident everywhere in the constitutional thought of influential evangelical conservatives – but I will focus here mainly on the other two wellsprings. Straussian political philosophers – students of the émigré University of Chicago philosopher Leo Strauss (1899-1973) (and students of students, and, now students of students of students) are often taken to be atheists – it is hard to tell, in many cases, for, even if you ask them, given their beliefs about esotericism in philosophy (the threat posed by true philosophers the extant political order), you can’t trust their answers. For our purposes, I will note that one of their animating tropes is the indispensability of reconciling “Athens and Jerusalem” (or, put otherwise, “Reason and Revelation”) in the construction of a just and good political order. In Straussian Harry Jaffa’s highly influential account in Crisis of the House Divided (1959), Abraham Lincoln’s world-historical accomplishment was in doing just that, by incorporating the opening lines of the Declaration of Independence into the U.S. Constitution – thereby redeeming the American Founding, which was all but fatally compromised by its acceptance of chattel slavery. ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Kersch needs to keep in mind that most "Straussians" are not Jaffaite "West Coast Straussians" but rather "East Coast Straussians."  They have their own way of articulating "Goldilocks' originalism," but without the Declaration of Independence and its God; they view the DOI's God as certainly not the Christian God or even the Judeo-Christian God, God of the Bible, or what have you.  Strauss himself didn't think Athens and Jerusalem could be reconciled.  That throws a bit of a monkey wrench into Kersch's narrative.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5865687876124051603?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5865687876124051603/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5865687876124051603&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5865687876124051603'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5865687876124051603'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/kersch-on-goldilocks-originalism.html' title='Kersch on “Goldilocks” Originalism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3957274791739933189</id><published>2011-12-03T16:17:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T16:23:07.310-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Would the American Founders have affirmed our national motto "In God We Trust"?</title><content type='html'>Thomas Kidd, of Baylor University, argues they would have in this op-ed published by USA Today: &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-11-28/patrick-henry-religion-founding-fathers/51504770/1"&gt;Founders would agree that "In God We Trust."&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Kidd has published on Patrick Henry, so much of his argument pertains to the early Republican/Jeffersonian tradition, but the Federalists (like Hamilton and Adams) were equally insistent that Providence governs the affairs of men and that our rights and duties flow from divine wellsprings, rather than the arbitrary diktat of the State. &amp;nbsp;Even the most religiously skeptical among the founding generation -- Franklin and Paine come to mind -- affirmed the existence of Providence and God's superintending care over human life. While the Founders may have had a broad diversity of religious opinion regarding orthodox Christian belief, God as the providential source of human rights was key to the principles of our Revolution and the formation of the early Republic.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3957274791739933189?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3957274791739933189/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3957274791739933189&amp;isPopup=true' title='20 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3957274791739933189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3957274791739933189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/would-american-founders-have-affirmed.html' title='Would the American Founders have affirmed our national motto &quot;In God We Trust&quot;?'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>20</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5952253591329297203</id><published>2011-12-03T09:44:00.004-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.993-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Did President Obama Redeem Himself?</title><content type='html'>With his &lt;a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/12/02/merry-christmas-from-and-to-president-obama/"&gt;explicitly Christian Christmas message&lt;/a&gt;.  I note this after his more secular, godless recent Thanksgiving message that ticked some folks off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;President Obama, as I see it, operates in the political theological tradition of the religious left, Christian-Left ala Cornel West (though as an elected politician, Obama is far more conservative in his policy decisions than they want him to be).  They are arguably the heirs to Martin Luther King's political theology.  (I won't go there with Bonhoeffer; at least not yet.)  In addition to being generously ecumenical, the Christian-Left types, like Obama, seem to flirt with unitarian and universalistic theologies making them like the Jonathan Mayhews of the Founding era.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is Obama a Christian?  Was Jonathan Mayhew a Christian?  Are Mormon's Christian?  These are all related questions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5952253591329297203?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5952253591329297203/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5952253591329297203&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5952253591329297203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5952253591329297203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/did-president-obama-redeem-himself.html' title='Did President Obama Redeem Himself?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2744414583302660585</id><published>2011-12-03T07:54:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.993-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>A Christian Gives Thanks That America Is Not A Christian Nation</title><content type='html'>From Parker J. Palmer &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/11/24/america-not-christian-nation_n_1102094.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;These foundation stones of American democracy were laid a century too late to save Mary Dyer's life. Dyer, a middle-aged mother of six, was hanged in 1660 for defying a Puritan law that banned Quakers from the Massachusetts Bay Colony. The Christians who cruelly deprived this woman of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness were dead certain (so to speak) that they were on a mission from God, protecting their "divinely ordained" civic order against Mary Dyer's seditious belief in the Inner Light.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a spiritual descendant of Mary Dyer, I'm profoundly grateful that America is not a Christian nation. If it were, my Quaker convictions might get me into very deep oatmeal. And as a Christian who does his best to take reason as seriously as I take faith, I find it impossible to understand America as a "Christian nation" -- and I believe that there are vibrant possibilities in the fact that it is not.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2744414583302660585?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2744414583302660585/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2744414583302660585&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2744414583302660585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2744414583302660585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/christian-gives-thanks-that-america-is.html' title='A Christian Gives Thanks That America Is Not A Christian Nation'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6255464581990951923</id><published>2011-12-02T12:40:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.993-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Theology is Freaky</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;And arguing about it is freakier.&lt;/i&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes I think I'm a freak when I delve into the deep theological waters and try to wrap my mind around these concepts.  But when I read the works of great theologians I see they were even freakier.  Jonathan Mayhew, the great unitarian heretic who so monumentally influenced America's Founding, for instance.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=3ucEAAAAYAAJ&amp;pg=PA388&amp;lpg=PA388&amp;dq=jonathan+mayhew+the+atonement&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=LDjTFSjUz3&amp;sig=wQlCNyuBUlqriSBa0SuLTTf3jdM&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=fQjYTsgfweDRAeny2PIN&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;This is a LONG excerpt&lt;/a&gt; of his where he tries to explain his views on the atonement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If I ever engage in a formal controversy with any person, it shall be with one who appears to me to have both a better head and honester heart than you have discovered in this specimen of your abilities, and your zeal for what you call orthodoxy. Yet I do not think it proper to be entirely silent. Though my sermons need no elaborate, argumentative defence against your impertinent criticisms, yet so much rudeness and insolence, so much misrepresentation and slander, falsehood and forgery, as your libel contains, should not, methinks, be passed over without some animadversions; especially, as it is probable many will read your essay, who never perused my sermons: and it is chiefly for this reason, that I give you and myself the present trouble: my principal aim being not to dispute with, but to chastize and admonish you, for your good, and to make you an example and warning to others. If, in doing this, I shall transiently touch upon the merits of the case, theologically considered, you are not to flatter yourself that I mean to controvert such points with you, whom I consider unworthy to be reasoned with about them, any farther than is requisite to show your dishonesty and wickedness with regard to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'If I had really published any materials in point of doctrine, let me tell you, Mr. Cleaveland, that you are a most unsuitable person to undertake a confutation of them, or to set yourself up for an author: though you say you have an undoubted right to do so. I am sensible that British subjects have an undoubted legal right to expose themselves in print, on politics, divinity, or any other subject; and if this is what you insist upon as a privilege, I would not, by any means, have your liberty or that of the press restrained. You speak of divines of indisputable ability, for such an undertaking as that of vindicating the truth against me. Can you, then, possibly think it became you, an obscure .person, lately from another province, and one so unlettered as you are; an outcast from a college to which you were a disgrace; for some time a rambling itinerant, and promoter of disorders and confusion among us, so raw and unstudied in divinity; and one hardly ever heard of among us, but in the frequent reports of your follies, and extravagances; can you possibly think it became you to turn author on this occasion, and take this necessary work out of the hands of able divines, of defending the most important principles of the protestant religion against me? What an unaccountable vanity and infatuation was this! And you have passed an implicit censure on those divines, also, by saying, 'I marvel that some of our divines of great ability, have not attempted to vindicate the truth against him.' Is not this proof that none of our able divines thought there was any occasion for opposition to me?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'If it were my intention to write to you as a scholar, logician, or divine, I would take some notice of the confusion and want of method, so apparent throughout your libel. But it is as much beneath me to play the critic on such a performance, as it would be particularly to expose the vanity of your criticisms on my sermons. Let me here just observe, that if I agree with you in so many things, as you say I do, this is better presumptive evidence that I am under some mistakes, than any which you have produced. For I can hardly suppose it possible for any one to be of your opinion in many points of doctrine, without being in the wrong as to some.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'But I will proceed to the main business of this letter, which is to set your falsehoods and evil surmises respecting my sermons, in some order before your eyes; and to administer the reproof and correction which you deserve; or rather a part of it; for it is only they who hold the sword of public justice can punish wickedness to the extent of its demerits. Your wickedness, in this affair, appears written, as one may say, on your forehead—I mean in your title-page; in which you represent me to the world, as an enemy to ' the most important principles of the protestant religion;' particularly the doctrine of Christ's atonement; and on which you say I cast 'injurious aspersions.' After the word atonement, you indeed insert these clauses, viz., 'as being absolutely necessary to the pardon of sin, consistently with God's infinite rectitude,' that you might have an hole to creep out at But this will not serve your turn. You know in your conscience that I did not deny any necessity of atonement, arising from wisdom, fitness, the ends of government, or the moral character of God; but rather said what implies it, as will appear to your confusion, unless you are past all shame. How then could you have the confidence, because my expressions concerning atonement do not exactly agree with yours, to represent me to the world as casting injurious aspersions on it ?—by which you doubtles intended something beyond a simple denial of it. Indeed, nothing is more manifest, than that it was your intention to asperse me, as an enemy to some of the most important doctrines of the gospel; which you, accordingly, attempt to defend against the supposed 'injurious aspersions' cast on them in my sermons. You must be sensible that this is a high charge to be brought against one, who is, by his station and profession at least, a minister of the gospel. But I have the less reason to be uneasy at your dislike of my sermons, because I think it pretty evident you do not well like the text itself, in its plain and obvious sense; or, in other words, that you do not really believe, 'The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies over all his works.' Had you believed this to be strictly true, I do not think you would have made such an outcry against those sermons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'You are pleased to say, that my design evidently was to represent the divine goodness in such a light as to show there was no absolute necessity for the sacrifice of Christ, to make atonement, or to satisfy divine justice, in order to God's forgiving the sins of men consistently with his moral goodness.* ["* The scriptures make use of no such language as Christ's satisfying divine justice. But I am not disposed to dispute about words. If they who use the phrase, mean no more by the satisfaction of Christ, than is implied in his sacrifice or atonement, I make no objection to it: but I have asserted the doctrine in my sermons, which have been so outrageously attacked.']&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'I might remark, on this charge, that if I had asserted the non-necessity of atonement, or satisfaction, in order to the forgiveness of sins, this would have been no more than some eminent divines have done; even calvinistic divines, whom I suppose you account the most reformed of any. I will refer to only one, the famous Dr. Twisse, who was prolocutor of the assembly of divines at Westminster. And his opinion ought, perhaps, to have almost as much weight as that of Mr. Cleaveland, of Ipswich. In his defence of the doctrines of grace, he says, that 'God can forgive sins by his absolute power, even without satisfaction.' And again, 'That God can forgive sins, without satisfaction, by his absolute power, appears so manifest to me, that I should think it a point beyond all controversy.' And still further, 'If God cannot forgive sin without satisfaction, it is either because he cannot as it respects his power, or as respects justice; but neither of these can be affirmed.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'It is here manifest, that this eminent calvinistic divine ,was full and positive in his opinion that sin might have been forgiven without any satisfaction; and particularly that the justice of God did not indispensably require it. If I had asserted the same thing, did it become you, I say you, Mr. Cleaveland, to inveigh against me for it, and to load me with so much obloquy? Could you not differ from me in opinion, and yet observe some sort of decency and modesty in your opposition? But let me remind you, that I did not assert the possibility of forgiveness without atonement. So far from it, that the manner in which I expressed myself on the subject, rather implied a moral necessity thereof in order to forgiveness. And surely you will not assert any other kind of necessity; or a natural one, as contradistinguished from moral. At least, I am persuaded that no man who understands what he says, supposes any other. That I denied not such a necessity, but rather supposed it, will fully appear, together with your wilful falsehood and iniquity with reference to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'I must notice the method you take to prove that I had the design which you charge on me. You infer this from what I said of divine justice, as a branch of goodness: which opinion you suppose, but without reason, to be inconsistent with the doctrine of atonement. But what an iniquitous method of proceeding is this! On supposition I was mistaken about divine justice, (which I believe no one can show,) is this a sufficient ground to charge me with such a design as you speak of? This is the same kind of dishonesty that it would be in any one to accuse you of atheism, because he supposed some of your principles, pursued to their just consequences, would terminate in it; which probably may be the case. Yet I should think it injurious to charge you with a design to propagate atheism, while you profess the contrary, even though you have shown so little regard to truth and integrity, as you have done in many parts of your libel. One instance of this I must refer to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'You insinuate that I hold every act of punitive justice in God to be intended for the good of the individual, on whom it terminates. Now would not any one, who never read my sermons, (on the divine goodness,) and took you for an honest man, conclude that I supposed it would be unjust for God to punish a sinner more than would be for his own good? Indeed, you say expressly, that, according to my principles, 'God would not be perfectly good, but cruel, if he should punish sinners any farther than could be for their good, or happiness.'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'Now, are you not ashamed, Mr. Cleaveland, of such prevarication as this? I did, indeed, compare God's acts of punitive justice to those of a wise and good earthly parent, or sovereign, who has always some good or benevolent design in punishing. But I expressly guarded, as you well know, against the supposition that all acts of punitive justice, whether in God or man, are acts of kindness to the suffering individuals. I said, in my sermons, (when speaking of the motive from which a wise and good parent punishes his children,) 'Is it not to reform and do them good; or, at least, with a view to the benefit of his other children, or those of his household, that they may be under due subjection? &amp;c.—So that, in a good parent, there is no such quality as justice, really distinct from goodness; not even in punishing; for it is goodness which gives the blow.' This last clause you dishonestly introduce, as if I had not only used it expressly concerning God, but had thereby intended to assert that he never punishes a sinner but for his own good, in distinction from the public or common. And is not this a wicked, wilful perversion of my evident meaning?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'Speaking, just after, of a wise and good earthly sovereign, I said, 'he does not inflict punishments, but such as he considers needful for the support of his government; if not for the particular good of those who suffer, as in capital cases, yet for the good of his people in general, by way of example and terror, that good order may be preserved. So that, even in this case of capital punishment, the justice of the sovereign is not a quality distinct from goodness. It is goodness, or a regard to the common good, that takes off the head of the traitor,' &amp;c.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6255464581990951923?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6255464581990951923/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6255464581990951923&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6255464581990951923'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6255464581990951923'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/theology-is-freaky.html' title='Theology is Freaky'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-777061943190956251</id><published>2011-12-01T14:39:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.994-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Unitarians and Atonement</title><content type='html'>Even in the 19th Century, Unitarians believed in the "Atonement."  Again, it's not unlike with Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnessism; in a broad sense they believe in many of the same things as the "orthodox."  But when specifically defining terms, they mean irreconcilably different things.  The Unitarians did NOT believe Christ as 2nd Person in the Trinity made an infinite Atonement as &lt;i&gt;necessary satisfaction&lt;/i&gt; for the infinite penalty cosmic justice demands because man sinned against an infinite God.  Rather &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=Vgn4hZEZpXMC&amp;amp;pg=PA40&amp;amp;lpg=PA40&amp;amp;dq=%22unitarian%22+%22atonement%22&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=wegHB3VbJf&amp;amp;sig=ocD7vDhEwBuwJLvhcQQKfaVyuKU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=Qe3XTqCdFMnTgAfhxYiSDw&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=7&amp;amp;ved=0CEkQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%22unitarian%22%20%22atonement%22&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;something else&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;ATONEMENT AND RECONCILIATION.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;§ 40. Unitarians believe that atonement and reconciliation are the same thing. Both mean a state of union and peace between man and God; the harmony between the Divine justice and Divine mercy; and the substitution of trust toward God and dependence on him, for fear and the dread of his displeasure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;§ 41. Unitarians do not believe that Christ came to reconcile God to man, but to reconcile man to God; not to make God love us, but to reveal his love; not to harmonize his justice and mercy, but to show that they are always in harmony. Christ's death was not a sacrifice made to appease the Divine anger, but it was an expression of the Divine love. Paul says (Rom. viii. 32), "He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hopefully one can now understand how Arians like Jonathan Mayhew, Samuel West and many others from the Founding era could disbelieve in Original Sin, Trinity, and Incarnation but hold to an unorthodox view of the Atonement.  Likewise they believed in the Resurrection and even Christ's "divine" nature.  Christ was "divine" but created and subordinate to the Father.  Lower than God but higher than the highest arch-angel.  (So quotations that refer to Christ as "divine" are NOT smoking gun proofs of orthodoxy; rather one must prove the speaker believed Christ God the Son, 2nd Person in the Trinity.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update: I probably should have included a Founding era as opposed to a late 19th Century era quotation on unitarians and the atonement.  My reasoning was this: Unitarianism seemed to (?) become even more "liberal" as time passed. Therefore IF during the mid-late 19th Cen. they still believed in something they called atonement, it's no stretch to say that many unitarians in the 18th Cen. believed it.  Indeed, Jonathan Mayhew, the militant Arian he, went on at great length explaining how he believed in what he understood as the "atonement."  &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=3ucEAAAAYAAJ&amp;pg=PA388&amp;lpg=PA388&amp;dq=jonathan+mayhew+the+atonement&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=LDjTFSjUz3&amp;sig=wQlCNyuBUlqriSBa0SuLTTf3jdM&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=fQjYTsgfweDRAeny2PIN&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;You can read him arguing&lt;/a&gt; with an orthodox figure who accuses him of denying the atonement. As I understand it, 1. Mayhew clearly says he believes in (and preached) the "atonement," 2. but when explaining just how he understands the doctrine, intimates an "unorthodox" understanding of the "atonement."  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I chose the 19th Cen. quotation because it reads clearer than Mayhew's.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-777061943190956251?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/777061943190956251/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=777061943190956251&amp;isPopup=true' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/777061943190956251'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/777061943190956251'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/unitarians-and-atonement.html' title='Unitarians and Atonement'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3216991205514327781</id><published>2011-12-01T13:54:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.994-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Samuel West Arminian Unitarian</title><content type='html'>Key patriotic preacher Samuel West was, according to those who knew him best, an Arminian-Unitarian.  As &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?output=text&amp;amp;id=Di85Y0Xg0sQC&amp;amp;jtp=37"&gt;this source notes&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;With reference to Dr. West's position on the doctrine of the Trinity, his granddaughter, Mary C. West, of Tiverton, (recently deceased,) wrote in a communication printed in the Evening Standard of this city in March, 1883, as follows: "If his children were competent witnesses (my father and aunt) I can say that they have often told me that their father was an Arminian Unitarian. * * * I have heard my aunt many times tell this story. When she was a little girl her teacher set her to learning a catechism, — I think it was the Westminster, but at any rate it had the Trinitarian formula in it: 'The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.' She was at home studying her lesson in a loud voice, and her father heard her repeating the above formula and called her to him and held up three of his fingers (as she always did when she told the story), and asked her how three could be one, took the book from her and put it in his pocket, and told her to tell her teacher that he would get her another catechism, which he did. I think the one he got her was called 'The Franklin Catechism,' or 'The Franklin Primer."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've heard it noted that because Rev. West believed Christ as &lt;i&gt;redeemer&lt;/i&gt; who made an &lt;i&gt;atonement&lt;/i&gt;, that means he was orthodox.  Wrong.  That's a logical error called a "non-sequitur" -- a conclusion that does not follow from the facts presented.  Some unitarians did believe in the resurrected Christ who made an atonement for man.  Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses believe this.  They just hold an unconventional view of these doctrines.  This fits perfectly with West's Arianism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the same above linked to source notes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In theology, Dr. West was progressive and liberal. His sympathies with humanity were too quick to make him a good Calvinist. Judged by to-day's standards, much of his writing would seem antiquated. His sermons were largely of the old Biblical and textual type. But judged by his own time he was an Arminian, which was the transition passage to Unitarianism. That is, he asserted free will for man in opposition to Calvin's doctrine of fore-ordination and irreparable election, and man's ability of moral choice in opposition to the doctrine of "total depravity." With regard to Christ his views were more Arian than Athanasian....&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3216991205514327781?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3216991205514327781/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3216991205514327781&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3216991205514327781'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3216991205514327781'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/samuel-west-arminian-unitarian.html' title='Samuel West Arminian Unitarian'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-7271106859388226897</id><published>2011-12-01T09:32:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.995-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>William Livingston's Ecumenical Letter</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?view=image;size=100;id=mdp.39015034350036;page=root;seq=66;num=54"&gt;Livingston's letter&lt;/a&gt;, Sept. 22, 1744, to Rev. Mr. James Sprout, anticipates &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/03/americas-key-founders-as-judeo.html"&gt;Thomas Jefferson's 1819 "Apriarians"&lt;/a&gt; remark AND Benjamin Rush's &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=59dQoRNSwxMC&amp;amp;pg=PA81&amp;amp;dq=a+compound+of+the+orthodoxy+and+heterodoxy+of+most+of+our+Christian+churches&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=i6rXTuGMEonj0QG60uT1DQ&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=2&amp;amp;ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=a%20compound%20of%20the%20orthodoxy%20and%20heterodoxy%20of%20most%20of%20our%20Christian%20churches&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;1808 remark&lt;/a&gt; on how his faith is "a compound of the orthodoxy and heterodoxy of most of our Christian churches."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, the letter anticipates the notion found in all of the "key Founders'" theological meanderings (Washington, J. Adams, Jefferson, Franklin) that the test of "true religion" is good works (not necessarily faith in doctrine).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"My dear Sir,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;# # # # #'# # #&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I am sorry to hear you are so divided among yourselves with respect to religion, which is plain and simple, and to the meanest capacity intelligible.  Every man has a right to think for himself, as he shall answer for himself, and it is unreasonable for me to be angry with any one for being of different principles, as he has the same pretence to quarrel with me. And when we consider that truth is comprised in a small compass, but that error is infinite, we shall not be so positive and dogmatical, to set up for infallibility, and anathematize those of a contrary opinion. There is no sect that come under the denomination of Christians but what pretend to ground their principles on the Holy Scriptures, and consequently all have an equal right to think themselves the best; and if they are heretical in some tenets, in others they are confessedly orthodox. Let us then resemble the bee, that collects the purest nectar out of a diversity of flowers, that we may not quake, but exult, at the second sound of the trumpet, when we shall not be asked of what sect we have been, but be judged according to our works. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am, &amp;amp;c.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Wm. Livingston."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-7271106859388226897?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/7271106859388226897/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=7271106859388226897&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/7271106859388226897'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/7271106859388226897'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/12/william-livingstons-ecumenical-letter.html' title='William Livingston&apos;s Ecumenical Letter'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1421842421481624323</id><published>2011-11-27T11:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.995-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Christianity and Liberty</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;By George H. Smith:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/volume-2-number-6/christianity-and-liberty"&gt;A taste&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;An atheist is rarely asked to write an essay on “religion’s positive role in society,” but it is fitting that this request came from the Acton Institute. Lord Acton (1834-1902) was a Catholic, a classical liberal, and a great historian who devoted his life to the history of liberty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acton always stressed this important truth: No one group or movement, religious or secular, deserves exclusive credit for the theory and evolution of free institutions. All historians should avoid the unpardonable sin of “making history into the proof of their theories.” Instead, the historian should try “to do the best he can for the other side, and to avoid pertinacity or emphasis on his own.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.... Ironically, Acton’s Catholicism and my atheism give us something in common. In Protestant countries, Catholics and atheists were often lumped together and branded as subversive minorities whose doctrines, if permitted to circulate freely, would jeopardize the core values of a free society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This “dark myth” was especially popular in seventeenth-century England, where it found adherents even among some of liberalism’s most distinguished founding fathers. John Locke, for example, argued that religious liberty is a “natural right” that should be enjoyed by everyone–except Catholics and atheists. The doctrines of these minorities, Locke believed, are incompatible with the moral foundations of a free society (though for different reasons), so they should be legally suppressed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acton attacked this dark myth in two ways. First, he identified minority rights as a defining characteristic of a free society: “The most certain test by which we judge whether a country is really free is the amount of security enjoyed by minorities.” Second, according to Acton, the history of liberty is inextricably linked to the history of minorities:&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read the rest &lt;a href="http://www.acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/volume-2-number-6/christianity-and-liberty"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1421842421481624323?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1421842421481624323/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1421842421481624323&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1421842421481624323'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1421842421481624323'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/christianity-and-liberty.html' title='Christianity and Liberty'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1605420352983470857</id><published>2011-11-27T09:50:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.996-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Religious Toleration Versus Religious Freedom</title><content type='html'>A fascinating article by George H. Smith which features topics that interest me and my fellow travelers.  &lt;a href="http://www.libertarianism.org/publications/essays/excursions/religious-toleration-versus-religious-freedom"&gt;A taste&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;During the mid-1550s, after Catholicism had been reestablished in England and while Queen Mary—or “Bloody Mary,” as she came to be known—was in the process of burning nearly 300 Protestants in three years, John Philpot, Archdeacon of Winchester, was accused of heresy and thrown in prison. There he had a chance to discuss the fine points of theology with other unfortunate Protestants, one of whom defended the old heresy known as “Arianism”—a general label for any Christian who repudiated the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity. Philpot was so disgusted by this encounter with a real heretic that he finished off the conversation by spitting on his adversary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before Philpot was burned at the stake in 1555, he was able to vindicate his decision to spit on a fellow Protestant martyr. He wrote a tract with a long and lively title: &lt;i&gt;An Apology of John Philpot; written for spitting upon an Arian: with an invective against Arians, the very natural children of Antichrist: with an admonition to all that be faithful in Christ, to beware of them, and of other late sprung heresies, as of the most enemies of the gospel.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read the rest &lt;a href="http://www.libertarianism.org/publications/essays/excursions/religious-toleration-versus-religious-freedom"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1605420352983470857?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1605420352983470857/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1605420352983470857&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1605420352983470857'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1605420352983470857'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/religious-toleration-versus-religious.html' title='Religious Toleration Versus Religious Freedom'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-182318812682453952</id><published>2011-11-25T09:20:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:56:37.780-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tubbs&apos; Posts'/><title type='text'>George Washington Thanked Who?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px;"&gt;I hope everyone enjoyed the Thanksgiving holiday. With all the turkey, stuffing, football, Black Friday sales, and political correctness, it's sometimes easy to forget the original purpose behind the holiday, and the man who made it a national event. Fortunately, a column in &lt;i&gt;USA Today&lt;/i&gt; helps remind us that...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"George Washington Thanked God for America"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px;"&gt;by Brian W. Walsh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px;"&gt;It used to be common knowledge that America's first national&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Thanksgiving+Day" style="background-color: white; color: #00529b; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;" title="More news, photos about Thanksgiving Day"&gt;Thanksgiving Day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px; text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;was established by President George Washington in 1789. While a few modern critics might be rankled by, as Washington's proclamation puts it, an official "day of public thanksgiving and prayer," for most Americans the holiday stands as an enduring reminder of Washington's wise vision for American religious freedom.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 25px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;To read the rest of the article, visit&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-11-23/thanksgiving-george-washington-god-church-state/51376286/1" target="_blank"&gt;"George Washington Thanked God for America"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-182318812682453952?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/182318812682453952/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=182318812682453952&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/182318812682453952'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/182318812682453952'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/george-washington-thanked-who.html' title='George Washington Thanked Who?'/><author><name>Brian Tubbs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15412421076480479001</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0Qh0lOPyrZk/SsJm9SkVwfI/AAAAAAAAAZA/IL789BWfCPs/S220/100_BTubbs.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1947574822990420845</id><published>2011-11-23T10:23:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.996-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>History of Christian Deism</title><content type='html'>I found the information on &lt;a href="http://www.christiandeistfellowship.com/histdeism.htm"&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; to be very useful.  When we hear "the FFs were all deists" or something along those lines, understand it's simply not true that they 1. were strict deists who believed in an impersonal God, 2. rejected the self identified "Christian" label, and 3. categorically disbelieved in the possibility of a revealing God.  Yet the "Christian-Deists" did have issues with things like original sin, Trinity, Incarnation, Atonement, eternal damnation, infallibility of the biblical canon (and which books properly included!) and greatly emphasized philosophical reasoning as a means for Truth discovery.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1947574822990420845?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1947574822990420845/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1947574822990420845&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1947574822990420845'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1947574822990420845'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/history-of-christian-deism.html' title='History of Christian Deism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1349172491437171916</id><published>2011-11-22T19:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.997-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Contradictions in the Bible Poster</title><content type='html'>I know this is somewhat off topic; but it's getting slow at AC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the very least &lt;a href="http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/105/"&gt;this proves the Bible&lt;/a&gt; does not "interpret itself" as some claim. You need a super sophisticated hermeneutic to sort all this out. HT: &lt;a href="http://sandefur.typepad.com/freespace/2011/11/the-self-contradictions-of-the-bible.html"&gt;Timothy Sandefur&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1349172491437171916?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1349172491437171916/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1349172491437171916&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1349172491437171916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1349172491437171916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/contradictions-in-bible-poster.html' title='Contradictions in the Bible Poster'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1804190420698140383</id><published>2011-11-20T11:35:00.005-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.997-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>And Bless The People  of France!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/fukuyamas-end-of-history-as-religious.html"&gt;My post&lt;/a&gt; on the enlightenment heterodox Christian apocalyptic case for Dr. Francis Fukuyama's "End of History" thesis brought to mind &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2008/11/founding-era-republican-sermons.html"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; where I mentioned the Arminian-Unitarian Rev. Enos Hitchcock's classic sermon&lt;a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=817&amp;amp;chapter=69409&amp;amp;layout=html&amp;amp;Itemid=27"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that connected the American and French Revolutions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=817&amp;chapter=69409&amp;layout=html&amp;Itemid=27"&gt;As he said&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;.... As Americans, we must either renounce that which is our boast and glory, or warmly wish success to the great principles of the French revolution—principles founded on the equal liberty of all men, and the empire of the laws. As rational beings, and as Christians, we should recollect, that from partial evil, it is the glory of the Supreme Ruler to bring forth general good; and that, as inspiration expresseth it, “He makes the wrath of man to praise him; but the remainder of wrath will he restrain.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The present war in Europe has a further object than the subjugation of France. It is a war of kings and despots, against the dearest rights and the most invaluable privileges of mankind. Should the combined powers succeed against France, and the re-establishment of monarchy there exist among possible events, what security have we, that the same attempt will not be made to restore monarchy in this country? Has not united America led the way? And may she not boast, with an honest pride, of the influence of her example in exciting the attention of many nations to their natural and civil rights? With what freedom of thought—with what enlightened and ardent philanthropy, has she inspired many of the nations of Europe! What would be her condition, if subjugated by the confederates against freedom, we may learn from the state of Poland, lately made free by a voluntary compact with its king; but now subdued by the ferocious power of the north, divided among her jealous neighbours, and the people sold with the soil, like the animals that graze upon it. Let the generous feelings of human nature rise indignant at the abhorrent idea of part of itself being thus degraded. Whatever may be the fate of France in the present contest, the great principles of the revolution will eventually find advocates in every part of the world, even among those who are now most inveterate against the conduct of the French. The doctrines of hereditary powers—of the divine right of kings—of their inviolability, and incapacity to do wrong, are fast declining, and will soon be exploded. They are solecisms of the same nature with their divine right to do wrong; and will, in future, more enlightened and liberal days, be read of with astonishment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How often doth a hand unobserved shift the scene of the world! The calmest and stillest hour precedes the whirlwind; and it hath thundered in the serenest sky. The monarch hath drawn the chariot of state, in which he had been wont to ride in triumph; or been dragged to a scaffold, by the misguided zeal of his late admirers; and the greatest who ever awed the world, have moralized at the turn of the wheel. Such, O Louis, has been thy untimely fate! At thy urn, let pitying nature drop a sympathetic tear! Cease, thou sanguinary demon, any longer to support thy bloody standard! May the milder genius of true liberty, and more enlightened policy, speedily pervade the councils, and bless the people of France!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1804190420698140383?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1804190420698140383/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1804190420698140383&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1804190420698140383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1804190420698140383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/and-bless-people-of-france.html' title='And Bless The People  of France!'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-183581255299425759</id><published>2011-11-20T10:58:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.997-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Ed Brayton's Bryan Fischer Award</title><content type='html'>From &lt;a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2011/11/20/bryan-fischer-misunderstands-his-award/"&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;.... David Barton &lt;a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2011/11/17/bryan-fischer-award-nominee-david-barton/" target="_blank"&gt;got the nomination&lt;/a&gt;  for criticizing someone else for passing on a fake quote from the  Founding Fathers when no one in the history of the nation has been  responsible for passing on more such fake quotes than David Barton.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, here’s the difference between David Barton and an intellectually  honest person. I criticize him for passing along false quotes. I &lt;a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2011/11/01/atheist-group-uses-fake-quote-on-billboard/" target="_blank"&gt;also criticized&lt;/a&gt;  the atheist group in California for doing so. And I’ve criticized  Christopher Hitchens for claiming that Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson  were atheists, an absolutely ridiculous position given their voluminous  writings on the subject. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I’ve criticized other atheists and secularists (those aren’t  necessarily the same thing, by the way — and I figure I’d better tell  you that because you always seem to think that anyone you disagree with  must all be wrong in precisely the same way and must be in league with  one another) for taking John Adams’ famous “this would be the best of  all possible worlds if there were no religion in it” line out of context  (he was actually saying the exact opposite of that when read in  context). That’s what an intellectually honest person does. It is not,  of course, what people like you and David Barton do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-183581255299425759?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/183581255299425759/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=183581255299425759&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/183581255299425759'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/183581255299425759'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/ed-braytons-bryan-fischer-award.html' title='Ed Brayton&apos;s Bryan Fischer Award'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5206202333163243558</id><published>2011-11-18T07:40:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.998-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Fukuyama's "The End of History" As Religious Dogma</title><content type='html'>Check out John Gray's &lt;a href="http://www.tnr.com/article/books/magazine/97257/fukuyama-modernization-theory-evolution?page=0,1&amp;amp;passthru=ZjUwMjlmYWNiNzk2YjY0NTEzYjZlZTY5ZDEwZjcyNDY"&gt;harsh review in The New Republic&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;However it is glossed, the end of history can only be understood as a version of Christian apocalyptic myth. Kojève’s doctoral dissertation was a study of the Russian religious writer Vladimir Solovyov, who in 1899 wrote a book called War, Progress, and the End of History, an apocalyptic vision of the coming century. Whether Fukuyama was aware of Kojève’s debt to Solovyov is unclear, but by appropriating Kojève’s account of global capitalism as a kind of end-time he was reproducing ideas that were shaped as much by Russian religious thought as they were by Hegel’s oracular philosophy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have traced the idea of the End of History as a religious theory, or more particularly liberal democracy ENDING history as a religious theory to the Francophile Anglo-American Whig preachers who believed Jesus would return at the triumph of the French Revolution to usher in a millennial republic of liberty, equality and fraternity.  The &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/04/joseph-priestley-millennium.html"&gt;Rev. Joseph Priestley&lt;/a&gt; -- admired by Jefferson, J. Adams, and Franklin -- was probably the quintessential figure who pushed this but there were many others and he wasn't the first.  [The earliest figure of whom I am aware is Joseph Dyer, who, &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-adams-biography-on-freethinking-in.html"&gt;according to John Adams&lt;/a&gt; pushed something similar in 1750s New England.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fukuyama is and was probably aware of these figures.  He studied with the Straussians and they in turn are pretty meticulously read in the literature of America's Founding era.  The problem is with their controversial understanding of the literature.  Liberal democracy, to them, rests on Hobbes' and Locke's atheistic premises.  So, to the Straussians, those apocalyptic preachers, with the fanatical zeal of Robespierre, pushed political principles that at their heart were atheistic and materialistic.  This in turn, gives Fukuyama and the Straussians an excuse to hand wave away any serious connection between "Christianity" and a universal liberal democracy; hence the need for some kind of complex Hegelian explanation for the phenomenon.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5206202333163243558?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5206202333163243558/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5206202333163243558&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5206202333163243558'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5206202333163243558'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/fukuyamas-end-of-history-as-religious.html' title='Fukuyama&apos;s &quot;The End of History&quot; As Religious Dogma'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8335887141519065970</id><published>2011-11-17T17:12:00.003-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.998-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Now THAT'S A Book I've Got to Read</title><content type='html'>I've been reading "&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA8&amp;lpg=PA132&amp;dq=%22george+washington%22+athanasian&amp;sig=hwvqZT09fNZmiS13bAeTEo6cVKo&amp;ei=n5vFTt6ABKnh0QHMybH3Dg&amp;ct=result&amp;id=3CYnAQAAIAAJ&amp;ots=XCYF6g1SK-#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;A catalogue of the Washington collection in the Boston Athenæum,&lt;/a&gt;" which describes what books President Washington read, and if he made any comments or wrote any letters about them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[AMORY, Thomas. Eccentric English writer, 1691 (?)-1788.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Life of John Buncle, Esq; containing Various Observations and Reflections, made in several Parts of the World, and many extraordinary Relations. London: printed for J. Johnson and B. Davenport. M.dcc.lxvi. Vol. I. iv, (iii)-ix, (7), 511 pp. Vol. II. (16), 532 pp. 8°.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The book is a literary curiosity, containing an extraordinary medley of religious and sentimental rhapsodies, descriptions of scenery, and occasional fragments of apparently genuine autobiography. 'The soul of Rabelais,' says Hazlitt, ' passed into John (Thomas) Amory.' The phrase is suggested by Amory's rollicking love adventures. He marries seven wives in the two volumes of Buncle, generally after a day's acquaintance, and buries them as rapidly. They are all of superlative beauty, virtue, and genius, and, in particular, sound Unitarians. A great part of the work is devoted to theological disquisition, showing considerable reading in defence of 'Christian deism.' Much of his love-making and religious discussion takes place in the north of England, and there is some interest in his references to the beauty of the lake scenery. His impassable crags, fathomless lakes, and secluded valleys, containing imaginary convents of Unitarian monks and nuns, suggest the light-headed ramblings of delirium." — Leslie Stephen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Washington undoubtedly read this book, as he takes care to note the interruption of the continuity of the narrative caused by the transposition of the parts in binding. The volumes bear no marks of frequent reading or use; on the contrary, they have a very fresh and clean appearance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update:  Before someone beats me to it in the comments, the book, apparently, can be read &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=7AQuAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA9&amp;source=gbs_toc_r&amp;cad=4#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8335887141519065970?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8335887141519065970/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8335887141519065970&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8335887141519065970'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8335887141519065970'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/now-thats-book-ive-got-to-read.html' title='Now THAT&apos;S A Book I&apos;ve Got to Read'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3925112660238948374</id><published>2011-11-16T10:15:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.999-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The Jefferson Lies</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;Or if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Barton seems to be taking a page from his arch-nemesis Chris Rodda, at least in rhetorical tone.  Hat Tip &lt;a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2011/11/16/david-barton-promotes-the-jefferson-lies/"&gt;Warren Throckmorton&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3925112660238948374?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3925112660238948374/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3925112660238948374&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3925112660238948374'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3925112660238948374'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/jefferson-lies.html' title='The Jefferson Lies'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4856274638484612691</id><published>2011-11-15T08:40:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:21.999-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The John Quincy Adams Quotation</title><content type='html'>I think I've covered this before but I'll direct you to Rational Rant's website for the 411 &lt;a href="http://rrsupplement.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-quincy-adams-to-autograph.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://rationalrant.blogspot.com/2011/11/indissoluble-bond-revisited.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  We often see this quotation cited by Christian Nationalists.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4856274638484612691?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4856274638484612691/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4856274638484612691&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4856274638484612691'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4856274638484612691'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-quincy-adams-quotation.html' title='The John Quincy Adams Quotation'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8927602741981393180</id><published>2011-11-12T09:30:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.000-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Did an Atheist create the Jefferson Bible?</title><content type='html'>What the Washington Times asks &lt;a href="http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/contemporary-christian-travel/2011/nov/10/did-atheist-createthe-jefferson-bible/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No Jefferson was not an atheist.  He was a theist who possessed some very interesting outside the box views on Christianity.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8927602741981393180?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8927602741981393180/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8927602741981393180&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8927602741981393180'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8927602741981393180'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/did-atheist-create-jefferson-bible.html' title='Did an Atheist create the Jefferson Bible?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-593166511190166309</id><published>2011-11-12T08:25:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.000-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Generous Ecumenicism</title><content type='html'>I think most folks got the point of &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/any-political-theological-relevance-to.html"&gt;my last post&lt;/a&gt; which asked whether there was any political theological relevance to the term the "Great Spirit"?  I think the answer is clearly yes, and it depends on how broad or narrow the claim.  The broad claim -- and those are always harder to argue and easier for critics to find a potential loophole -- is this indicates the political theology of the American Founding is "heterodox," "not Christianity," "syncretism," "unitarian-universalism," "theistic rationalism," or what have you.  I'm not here to argue that today.  The narrower, more modest claim -- and those are easier to argue and harder to strike down -- is the political theology of the American Founding was generously ecumenical.  You can still be an orthodox Christian -- like George W. Bush -- and generously ecumenical.  Generous ecumenicism means you don't claim Mormons are not Christians or that Muslims don't worship the same God as Jews and Christians.  Even if those two claims are ultimately true, it's not what the political theology of the American Founding is all about.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-593166511190166309?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/593166511190166309/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=593166511190166309&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/593166511190166309'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/593166511190166309'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/generous-ecumenicism.html' title='Generous Ecumenicism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6384693895861767765</id><published>2011-11-11T17:49:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.001-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Any Political Theological Relevance to the term the "Great Spirit"?</title><content type='html'>I got two important questions comments, &lt;a href="http://jonrowe.blogspot.com/2011/11/rufus-putnam-to-natives-recently-ive.html?showComment=1321051565310#c1083340177476360863"&gt;first from reader Jim51&lt;/a&gt; and second by Jim Goswick, aka &lt;a href="http://ourfoundingtruth.blogspot.com/2011/11/great-spirit-of-indians.html"&gt;Our Founding Truth&lt;/a&gt;.  I think we all recognize the utility, when speaking to unconverted Natives, in terming God "The Great Spirit" as it speaks their language.  Likewise those same Founding era Americans referred to &lt;a href="http://wardepartmentpapers.org/searchresults.php?searchClass=fulltextSearch&amp;amp;fulltextQuery=your+Great+Chief+Honandaganius%2C+General+washington"&gt;George Washington as "The Great Chief"&lt;/a&gt; when talking to the Natives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The QUESTION is whether the "Great Spirit" worshipping Natives really DO worship the same God as Christians.  Under a very ecumenical (perhaps heterodox, perhaps not) understanding all monotheists (Jews, Christians, Muslims, Unitarians, Deists, at least the ones who believe in Providence) worship the same ONE God -- the God of the Bible.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But not everyone interprets the Bible this way.  Conservative evangelical Jim Goswick writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;His point is most likely to link Putnam with the other infidel framers: George Washington, and James Madison, who used the same term referring to the Indian "Great Spirit." I call them infidels because that is what they would be if they considered the Indian god--or any god--the same as the Biblical God. The Bible says at least one thousand times, He is the Only God, the God of the Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only is Rowe's implication far-fetched, it would make George Washington a very ignorant man, given a Christian high schooler understands the difference. That Putnam and Washington are placating diplomatically to the Indians by referring to God in their terms is obvious--however Putnam was an Evangelical. The only reason an Evangelical would link the Indian Great Spirit with the God of the Bible is to be diplomatic and accomodating [sic].&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not sure if I quite get his point.  Yes, I think we all understand the diplomacy and accommodation.  And if all monotheists -- including Muslims and unconverted Native Americans -- worship the same God then we have an easy diplomatic and accommodating Truth.  Goswick seems to suggest that unconverted Natives really DIDN'T worship the God of the Bible with men like Washington and Putnam in knowledge of this.  What would that make them then?  Manipulative hypocrites when dealing with Natives.  Suggesting unconverted Natives worship the same God Christians do, while not believing it, reeks of the same charge of hypocrisy that some secular nationalist scholars make when they claim the early Presidents were cold deists (or atheists) who may have publicly spoken as though they believed in Providence or something closer to Christianity to placate the masses over whom they ruled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, about Rufus Putnam's personal religion.  I know David Barton quotes Putnam's Will that has orthodox Christian like language.  I haven't yet independently verified the quotation in reliable sources.  But if true, it tells us precisely nothing of Putnam's religion when he did his "Great Spirit" talk with the Natives.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6384693895861767765?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6384693895861767765/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6384693895861767765&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6384693895861767765'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6384693895861767765'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/any-political-theological-relevance-to.html' title='Any Political Theological Relevance to the term the &quot;Great Spirit&quot;?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6797309756657103324</id><published>2011-11-11T14:58:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.001-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>John Adams' Biography on Freethinking in 1750s New England</title><content type='html'>If I am not mistaken, &lt;a href="http://www.masshist.org/publications/apde/portia.php?mode=p&amp;id=DJA03p307#DJA03d270n1"&gt;this part&lt;/a&gt; was written in 1802.    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;About three Weeks after commencement in 1755, when I was not yet twenty Years of Age, a horse was sent me from Worcester and a Man to attend me. We made the Journey about Sixty miles in one day and I entered on my Office. For three months I boarded with one Green at the Expence of the Town and by the Arrangement of the Select Men. Here I found Morgans Moral Phylosopher,1 which I was informed had circulated, with some freedom, in that Town and that the Principles of Deism had made a considerable progress among several Persons, in that and other Towns in the County. ... I made a Visit to Mr. Putnam, and offered myself to him: He received me with politeness and even Kindness, took a few days to consider of it, and then informed me that Mrs. Putnam had consented that I should board in his House, that I should pay no more, than the Town allowed for my Lodgings, and that I should pay him an hundred dollars, when I should find it convenient. I agreed to his proposals without hesitation and immediately took Possession of his Office. His Library at that time was not large: but he had all the most essential Law Books: immediately after I entered with him however he sent to England for a handsome Addition of Law Books and for Lord Bacons Works. I carried with me to Worcester, Lord Bolingbrokes Study and Use of History, and his Patriot King. These I had lent him, and he was so well pleased with them that he Added Bolingbrokes Works to his List, which gave me an Opportunity of reading the Posthumous Works of that Writer in five Volumes. Mr. Burke once asked, who ever read him through? I can answer that I read him through, before the Year 1758 and that I have read him through at least twice since that time: But I confess without much good or harm. His Ideas of the English Constitution are correct and his Political Writings are worth something: but in a great part of them there is more of Faction than of Truth: His Religion is a pompous Folly: and his Abuse of the Christian Religion is as superficial as it is impious. His Style is original and inimitable: it resembles more the oratory of the Ancients, than any Writings or Speeches I ever read in English.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this Situation I remained, for about two Years Reading Law in the night and keeping School in the day. At Breakfast, Dinner, and Tea, Mr. Putnam was commonly disputing with me upon some question of Religion: He had been intimate with one Peasley Collins, the Son of a Quaker in Boston, who had been to Europe and came back, a Disbeliever of Every Thing: fully satisfied that all Religion was a cheat, a cunning invention of Priests and Politicians: That there would be no future State, any more than there is at present any moral Government. Putnam could not go these whole Lengths with him. Although he would argue to the extent of his Learning and Ingenuity, to destroy or invalidate the Evidences of a future State, and the Principles of natural and revealed Religion, Yet I could plainly perceive that he could not convince himself, that Death was an endless Sleep. Indeed he has sometimes said to me, that he fully believed in a future Existence, and that good Conduct in this Life, would fare better in the next World than its contrary. My Arguments in favor of natural and revealed Religion, and a future State of Rewards and Punishments, were nothing more than the common Arguments and his against them may all be found in Lucretius, together with many more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were two other Persons in the Neighbourhood, Doolittle and Baldwin, who were great Readers of Deistical Books, and very great Talkers.2 These were very fond of conversing with me. They were great Sticklers for Equality as well as Deism: and all the Nonsense of these last twenty Years, were as familiar to them as they were to Condorcet or Brissot. They were never rude however or insolent to those who differed from them. Another excentric Character was Joseph Dyer, who had removed from Boston and lived on a Farm of Mr. Thomas Hand-cock, Uncle of the late Governor, and kept a Shop.3 He had Wit and learning of some Sorts, but being very sarcastic, and very bitter against almost every body, but especially the Clergy, he was extreamly unpopular. An Arian by profession, he was far more odious among the People than the Deists. He had written many Manuscripts especially upon the Athanasian Doctrine of the Trinity, which he lent me: but though I read them all, having previously read Dr. Clark and Emlin as well as Dr. Waterland, I found nothing new. He was also a very profound Student in the Prophecies, and had a System of his own. According to him Antichrist signified all Tyranny and Injustice through the World. He carried his Doctrine of Equality, to a greater Extremity, or at least as great as any of the wild Men of the French Revolution. A perfect Equality of Suffrage was essential to Liberty. I stated to him the Cases of Women, of Children, of Ideots, of Madmen, of Criminals, of Prisoners for Debt or for Crimes. He could not give me any sensible Answer to these Objections: but still every limitation of the right of Suffrage, every qualification of freehold or any other property, was Antichrist. An entire Levell of Power, Property, Consideration were essential to Liberty and would be introduced and established in the Millenium. ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6797309756657103324?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6797309756657103324/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6797309756657103324&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6797309756657103324'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6797309756657103324'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-adams-biography-on-freethinking-in.html' title='John Adams&apos; Biography on Freethinking in 1750s New England'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6395457767659970590</id><published>2011-11-11T10:03:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.001-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Rufus Putnam to the Natives</title><content type='html'>Recently I've come across a great deal of evidence (too much for me to document) of Founding era figures speaking to unconverted Natives, addressing God as "The Great Spirit."  I'm not sure how much or what to make of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is my latest find from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_Putnam"&gt;Rufus Putnam&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=uZY0AAAAIAAJ&amp;pg=PA366&amp;lpg=PA366&amp;dq=%22rufus+putnam%22+%22great+spirit%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=8Yui5JJBSp&amp;sig=2WdIX0JX6pmyOT7FDZvfXlvuTx4&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=tVO9To3cIorY0QHMs433BA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;Speaking to the Natives in 1792&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Brothers,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thank the great Spirit who has inclined our Hearts to do good; and to establish a Peace between You and the United States — Brothers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us endeavour to restore Peace and happiness to all as far as lies in our Power; and for this purpose I request that You will send a Speech to Your Neighbours the Miamis, Dellawares, Shawanos and other Tribes, who have hitherto stopped their Ears, and refused to Speak with the United States about Peace; altho many Speeches have been sent to them for that purpose — Brothers,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I propose to send one Speech more requesting them to open a Road to some place or other, where we may meet and Speak to one another; And I trust with Your assistance, that the great Spirit will cause this good Work to succeed —&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6395457767659970590?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6395457767659970590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6395457767659970590&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6395457767659970590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6395457767659970590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/rufus-putnam-to-natives.html' title='Rufus Putnam to the Natives'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6371481264714348722</id><published>2011-11-10T22:32:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:57:02.525-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>A prayer for wisdom from a surprising source</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;"O powerful Goodness! &amp;nbsp;bountiful father! &amp;nbsp;merciful Guide! &amp;nbsp;Increase in me that wisdom which discovers my truest interest. &amp;nbsp;Strengthen my resolutions to perform what that wisdom dictates. &amp;nbsp;Accept my kind offices to thy other children as the only return in my power for thy continual favours to me."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;" /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;- &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin" style="color: #cc3300; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;Benjamin Franklin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(1706-1790), American founding father, from his&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;Autobiography&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;, quoted in&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;In God We Trust: &amp;nbsp;The Religious Beliefs and Ideas of the American Founding Fathers&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;, edited by Norman Cousins (Harper &amp;amp; Brothers: &amp;nbsp;1958), pg. 30.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6371481264714348722?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6371481264714348722/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6371481264714348722&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6371481264714348722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6371481264714348722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/prayer-for-wisdom-from-surprising.html' title='A prayer for wisdom from a surprising source'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2757539136303650769</id><published>2011-11-09T10:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:57:19.430-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kowalski&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The Table of Mutual Respect</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Like James Madison, the fourth President  of the United States and father of the U.S. Constitution who had misgivings about Chief Executives making religious pronouncements of any kind, I could dispense with annual Thanksgiving Proclamation from the White House.  But still I enjoy the holiday and forgive Obama and most of his predecessors for engaging in a little liturgical theater each November.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Glancing at  George Washington's declaration of the first Thanksgiving, in 1789, provides an interesting window into the Founder's faith.  He prominently offers gratitude for the "religious liberty with which we have been blessed."  He also prays for the " practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science," suggesting no incompatibility between the two but implying that greater understanding of nature's laws might be the best window into the mind of of the creator.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Washington actually acknowledged "Almighty God" in this document, which was a rarity in his other proclamations.  More often, he referred to the deity with the kinds of circumlocutions that dot the rest of this Thanksgiving announcement: "Beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be ...  Great Lord and Ruler of Nations ... Providence."  Interestingly, Washington nowhere, in any of his journals or correspondence, ever uses Christological forumulas to refer to the divinity, e.g. "Savior, Redeemer," etc.  In his own way, and in the context of his time, he was searching for what we'd now call inclusive religious language that went beyond Christian sectarianism to unite Americans of all religious persuasions in a bond of fellowship, civic cooperation and goodwill.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It was not a bad dream.  And in today's polarized religious climate--when Mitt Romney's Mormonism is again a campaign issue and Muslims are profiled as potential terrorists--the Founders remain a sensible model of how faith might yet become a force that unites rather than divides us from each other.  I imagine even atheists might thank God--with a wink--for the First Amendment.  So let's celebrate and give thanks:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;For a world in which there are many faiths,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;For a nation in which there is freedom of worship,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;And a land where people of all creeds, colors and backgrounds can sit together&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;At the table of mutual care and respect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2757539136303650769?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2757539136303650769/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2757539136303650769&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2757539136303650769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2757539136303650769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/table-of-mutual-respect.html' title='The Table of Mutual Respect'/><author><name>Revolutionary Spirits</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00832434470111324769</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OhfVqlX25JA/Txhsl8v7EYI/AAAAAAAAAvo/bz8vr5PWiV8/s220/garyheadshot.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-526490471898776857</id><published>2011-11-06T20:29:00.004-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:57:33.216-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Van Dyke&apos;s posts'/><title type='text'>Brits: American Revolution Illegal</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511"&gt;The BBC asks&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Was the Declaration of Independence legal?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Tuesday night, American and British lawyers in Philadelphia were taking on a fundamental topic:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Namely, just what did Thomas Jefferson think he was doing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some background: During the hot and sweltering summer of 1776, members of the second Continental Congress traveled to Philadelphia to discuss their frustration with royal rule.  By 4 July, America's founding fathers approved a simple document penned by Jefferson that enumerated their grievances and announced themselves a sovereign nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;"When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was also totally illegitimate and illegal.  At least, that was what lawyers from the UK argued during a debate at Philadelphia's Ben Franklin Hall.  The event pitted British barristers against American lawyers to determine whether or not the American colonists had legal grounds to declare secession.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For American lawyers, the answer is simple: "The English had used their own Declaration of Rights to depose James II and these acts were deemed completely lawful and justified," they say in their summary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To the British, however, secession isn't the legal or proper tool by which to settle internal disputes. "What if Texas decided today it wanted to secede from the Union? Lincoln made the case against secession and he was right," they argue in their brief.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A vote at the end of the debate reaffirmed the legality of Jefferson and company's insurrection, and the American experiment survived to see another day.  It was an unsurprising result, considering the venue - just a few blocks away from where the Declaration was drafted." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TVD: I'd love to have the details of the arguments.  Of course, America's "separation" from the mother country was illegal in Britain's eyes.  On the other hand, the English Civil Wars of the 1600s, which cut Charles I's head off and sent pro-Catholic James II packing off to Europe were kind of illegal, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also often lost is that the American colonists rejected the authority of Parliament, since the states' charters came from the kings of the 1600s, not the Parliament that finally won legislative supremacy by importing the pliant William &amp; Mary to take James II's throne in 1688.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the English and Scots [along with assorted Welsh and Irish] could kill one king and exile another, in comparison the Americans were pretty mellow about the whole thing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To the British barristers' argument, if Texas seceded after a pair of &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;coups d'etat&lt;/span&gt; in WashDC and a new form of government and constitution imposed, who could blame them?  Whatever the original deal was, it got so squirrelly that it was off.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I might have made another case, but the Declaration concentrates solely on why Americans no longer owe legal allegiance to the Crown. Having made its case there, it thumbs its nose at Parliament as a non-entity:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The King had lost legitimacy, and Parliament can go suck eggs.  The king was no longer king; Parliament was.  But with no representation in it, America owed it no legal allegiance either. And so:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The case for America rests, Your Honor.  And if you don't like it, you can go suck eggs too.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-526490471898776857?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/526490471898776857/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=526490471898776857&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/526490471898776857'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/526490471898776857'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/bbc-american-revolution-illegal.html' title='Brits: American Revolution Illegal'/><author><name>Tom Van Dyke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/111/1485/320/TVDH.2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2930101455261652725</id><published>2011-11-06T07:00:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.002-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Rational Rant Dissects the Larry Klayman Article</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://rationalrant.blogspot.com/2011/11/old-fakes-resurface-film-at-eleven.html"&gt;Excellent analysis&lt;/a&gt; of the primary sources and how Klayman either misquotes or garbles them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2930101455261652725?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2930101455261652725/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2930101455261652725&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2930101455261652725'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2930101455261652725'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/rational-rant-dissects-larry-klayman.html' title='Rational Rant Dissects the Larry Klayman Article'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5707681415937816049</id><published>2011-11-05T06:27:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.002-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>David Barton's Phony Quotations Live On</title><content type='html'>This time with &lt;a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=364193"&gt;Larry Klayman at WorldNetDaily&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5707681415937816049?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5707681415937816049/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5707681415937816049&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5707681415937816049'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5707681415937816049'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/david-bartons-phony-quotations-live-on.html' title='David Barton&apos;s Phony Quotations Live On'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-11685985195310361</id><published>2011-11-04T09:22:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.003-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>John Fea at the David Library</title><content type='html'>Well I finally got to meet John Fea in person as he notes &lt;a href="http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2011/11/last-night-at-david-library.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  (American Creation's Tom Van Dyke has engaged Dr. Fea quite a bit recently, so I was surprised that John didn't know of &lt;a href="http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2011/11/is-tom-van-dyke-greatest-game-show.html"&gt;Tom's distinguished past&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His lecture at &lt;a href="http://www.dlar.org/"&gt;the David Library&lt;/a&gt; was outstanding.  He focused less on what the key Founders personally believed on religion (something his book does detail) and more on the contrast between the Godless (or God minimal) US Constitution and the then state constitutions which were quite explicitly Christian.  Under the original federalist scheme, religion was left to the states.  That changed with the 14th Amendment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even though I've followed Dr. Fea's work closely, something did slip by me that I learned last night:  Christian Nationalists, trying to find "God" in the Constitution, invariably turn to the "In the Year of Our Lord" customary way of stating the date (why I concede the Constitution as God nominal, if not Godless).  What I learned: That may have been, apparently, something the Framers didn't even write, but was tacked on by a clerk who recorded the document.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, this year I've seen Akhil Amar, David Post, and John Fea speak at the David Library and all three gave outstanding lectures.  Though -- and I'm not not saying this -- judging by the Q &amp; A and book sales, the crowd seemed to enjoy Dr. Fea's the most.  All of his books sold last night.  From what I remember (I could be wrong) that didn't happen with Post and Amar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, I also got to meet a blog reader -- Jim51 -- who learned about the David Library from me.  He recognized me based on my online photos and introduced himself to me.  That was very nice.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-11685985195310361?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/11685985195310361/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=11685985195310361&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/11685985195310361'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/11685985195310361'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-fea-at-david-library.html' title='John Fea at the David Library'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4678932195231329355</id><published>2011-11-04T08:57:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.003-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Joe Carter Contra the Civil Religion</title><content type='html'>Carter argues against it again (as he oft-does every few years) &lt;a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/11/02/a-civil-rant-against-civil-religion/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think most Christians would agree that there is a vast and unbridgeable chasm between a deistic civil religion and orthodox Christianity. But the civil religion that our fellow citizens embrace is not the type Rousseau had in mind. It is very much a view that is rooted in the concept that America is a Christian nation (or at least a Judeo-Christian nation). For them, the “In God We Trust” on our coins might as well say “In Jesus We Trust.” The State is not only subordinate to the one true Sovereign (and don’t let the capitalized noun fool you—we’re still talking about Jesus here) but is expected to conform to his standards. Although this view can lead people to use Christianity to promote Americanism, more often it simply leads to criticism of the nation’s flaws. The fact that the country continually falls short of God’s standards is a constant annoyance for those who believe that the founding documents were wholly derived—at least in principle—from the Holy Scriptures. (Think I’m exaggerating? Talk to some of these folks and see if you don’t get the impression that they think the Constitution was inspired more by the Gospel of John than by John Locke.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of us who champion a role for religion in the public square, however, cannot fully embrace this Christianized concept of civil religion. If we claim, as our friends and neighbors believe, that “under God” refers only to the Christian conception of God then we are either being unduly intolerant or, more likely, simply kidding ourselves. Do we truly think that our fellow Hindu, Wiccan, or Buddhist patriots are claiming to be under the same deity as we are? We can’t claim, as the Apostle Paul did on Mars Hill, that the “unknown god” they are worshiping is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Pledge is, after all, a secular document and the “under god” is referring to the Divinity of our country’s civil religion. Just as the pagan religion of the Roman Empire was able to incorporate other gods and give them familiar names, the civil religion provides an umbrella for all beliefs to submit under one nondescript, fill-in-the-blank term.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4678932195231329355?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4678932195231329355/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4678932195231329355&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4678932195231329355'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4678932195231329355'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/joe-carter-contra-civil-religion.html' title='Joe Carter Contra the Civil Religion'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6293561479809487617</id><published>2011-11-02T14:27:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.003-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>General Anthony Wayne's Response...</title><content type='html'>To the &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/american-indians-providential-view-of.html"&gt;Natives' Providential Claim&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rogbAQAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA337&amp;lpg=PA337&amp;dq=wish+it+to+be+considered+that+they+were+the+first+people+the+Great+Spirit+seated+on+this+island&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=UK4aYSHqzv&amp;sig=ZmV6a8E1NRTyl3dOcmw9kyWxpbM&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=-HitTq2rDsHd0QHQu-mnDw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q=%22great%20spirit%22&amp;f=false"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It appears to me, that, if the Great Spirit, as you say, charged your forefathers to preserve their lands entire for their posterity,' they have paid very little regard to the sacred injunction: for I-see they have parted with those lands to your fathers the French, and the English are now, or have been, in possession of them all: therefore, I think the charge urged against the Ottawas, Chippewas, and the other Indians, comes with a bad grace indeed, from the very people who perhaps set them the example. The English and French both wore hats; and yet your forefathers sold'them, at various times, portions of your lands; however, as I have already observed, you shall now receive from the United States further valuable compensation, for the lands you have ceded to them by former treaties.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6293561479809487617?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6293561479809487617/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6293561479809487617&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6293561479809487617'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6293561479809487617'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/11/general-anthony-waynes-response.html' title='General Anthony Wayne&apos;s Response...'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-6463542506320904151</id><published>2011-10-30T11:50:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.004-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The American Indians' Providential View of History</title><content type='html'>I think we know how the sad story turned out.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I've been putting some of the text from the &lt;a href="http://wardepartmentpapers.org/index.php"&gt;papers of the War Dept&lt;/a&gt;. into search engines and I found &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rogbAQAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA337&amp;lpg=PA337&amp;dq=wish+it+to+be+considered+that+they+were+the+first+people+the+Great+Spirit+seated+on+this+island&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=UK4aYSHqzv&amp;sig=ZmV6a8E1NRTyl3dOcmw9kyWxpbM&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=-HitTq2rDsHd0QHQu-mnDw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q=wish%20it%20to%20be%20considered%20that%20they%20were%20the%20first%20people%20the%20Great%20Spirit%20seated%20on%20this%20island&amp;f=false"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, The speech of the Cornplanter and New Arrow to Major General Wayne, Chinuchshungutho, 8th December, 1792.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We thank the Great Spirit, that we with the rest of our chiefs, who were at council, have again arrived safe at our towns. According to the promise of our chiefs, made last winter in Philadelphia, we have been to council with the hostile Indians, to endeavor to bring them to a peace. After we arrived at their towns, and had acquainted them that it was the wish of General Washington to be at peace with the whole of the Indians, even those from the rising to the setting of the sun: after they had considered, they all, as one, agreed to make a peace: but as General Washington did not let us know the terms on which he would make peace, it was referred to a council the ensuing spring, where they wish he should be present.. They wish it to be considered that they were the first people the Great Spirit seated on this island, for which reason we look on the Americans as children, to call them our younger brethren.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-6463542506320904151?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/6463542506320904151/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=6463542506320904151&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6463542506320904151'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/6463542506320904151'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/american-indians-providential-view-of.html' title='The American Indians&apos; Providential View of History'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3689170335058404886</id><published>2011-10-28T10:02:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.004-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Timothy Pickering and "The Great Spirit"</title><content type='html'>I've noted many times before how George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, when speaking to unconverted Native Americans referred to God as "The Great Spirit" exactly as the Natives did, which suggests a very generous almost universalistic ecumenicism.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not sure how compatible this is with "orthodoxy."  There is a school of hard orthodoxy which suggests non-Christians believe in false gods, and consequently, the "Great Spirit" is a false god, or even a devil.  On the other hand, there is &lt;a href="http://bible.cc/acts/17-23.htm"&gt;Acts 17-23&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm interested in more of the comprehensive uses of the term the "Great Spirit" when the Founders spoke to unconverted Natives, and how such squares with orthodox or heterodox theology.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found &lt;a href="http://wardepartmentpapers.org/searchresults.php?searchClass=fulltextSearch&amp;amp;fulltextQuery=great+Spirit"&gt;this nifty link&lt;/a&gt;, which unfortunately I can't access completely without membership.  But it does point to a comprehensive list of those primary sources.  (Though I just registered; I think -- ? -- once approved I can access without paying a fee.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of those documents is "&lt;a href="http://wardepartmentpapers.org/document.php?id=6526"&gt;Colonel Pickering address to the Senekas and their Chief mourning the death of Farmer's Brother's Son&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Timothy Pickering, we know, was a unitarian; he was heterodox.  I have a hypothesis -- one I'd like to falsify -- that you'll see more "Great Spirit" talk by the heterodox as opposed to orthodox figures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But anyway, putting those relevant terms into a search engine I did find &lt;a href="http://www.joycetice.com/craft/c06.htm"&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; which quotes Col. Pickering's Great Spirit talk to the Natives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a big taste of the article:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;On the day after the informal meeting at Col. Pickering’s quarters, where thirty or forty chiefs were present, the first regular conference took place, which was opened by Col. Pickering in the following speech:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, sachems, chiefs, and warriors of the Six Nations, I bid you a hearty welcome to this council fire, and thank the Great Spirit who has brought us together in safety, though I sincerely lament the cause of our meeting. I mean the murder of our two brothers of your nation at Pine creek."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He then informed them that the thirteen fires had become one fire, and that General Washington was the great chief of all the fires, and had appointed him, Col. Pickering, to represent him at the treaty. He then caused his commission to be read, and handed it around that the chiefs might examine it. This being done, he excused any want of formality which might be observed, on the ground of his ignorance of their customs, that being the first treaty he had ever attended, and continued:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, you now see my commission, which has been read and interpreted, that according to my letter to you, I was appointed to wash off the blood of our murdered brothers, and wipe away the tears from the eyes of their friends, and that this occasion was to be improved to brighten the chain of friendship between you and the United States.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, you said the hatchet was yet sticking in your head. I now pull it out. I have now met you to wash off the blood of the slain, and wipe away the tears from the eyes of their friends; and, as a token of friendship and peace, and of the perfect security with which we may confer together, I now present you these strings."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I then, says Col. Pickering, delivered to the principal chief, usually called Farmer’s Brother, strings of wampum. After some consultation with the chiefs near him, he rose, and addressed me to the following effect:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, we thank the Great Spirit, who has appointed this day in which we sit side by side, and look with earnestness on each other. We know you have been long waiting for us, and suppose you have often stretched up your neck to see if we were coming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, we sent your letter to the Grand river by the Fish Carrier, and we have been waiting for its return, but it has not yet come to hand, and therefore we cannot yet properly enter upon the business. We must wait two days for the arrival of the Fish Carrier, or to hear from him. But, in the mean time, as the letter has not come back, we desire you to accept this belt as a pledge."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He then delivered the belt. After a pause, the chief called Red Jacket rose, and spoke to this effect:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, we are happy to see you here, for which we thank the Great Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, you say you are not acquainted with our customs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, we are young, but we will describe the ancient practices of our fathers. The roads we now travel were cleared by them. When they used to meet our brothers of Pennsylvania at Philadelphia, our brothers not only pulled the hatchet out of their heads, but buried it. You say you have pulled the hatchet out of our heads, but you have only cast it behind you. You may take it up again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, while the hatchet lies unburied we cannot sit easy on our seats.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, from the time we made peace with the United States, we have experienced troubles more than before. The United States have also had their troubles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, we now hear General Washington, the great chief of the United States, speaking to us by you, and hope our troubles will now have an end. But our eyes are not yet washed that we may see, nor our throats cleared that we may speak."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As soon as Red Jacket sat down, I rose, and spoke to the following effect:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, you say I have only pulled the hatchet out of your heads, and have not buried it, and while it is unburied you cannot sit easy on your seats.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, in declaring that I pulled the hatchet out of your heads, I meant to comply with your own demand to the president and council of Pennsylvania,* which was that he should come and pull the hatchet out of your heads. However, to give you entire satisfaction on this point, as the hatchet is already pulled out of your heads, I now bury it, and pray God that it may remain buried, and that its sharp edge may never more be seen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, the United States has no wish but to live with you as brothers in perpetual peace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brothers, I now wash off the blood of your murdered brothers, and the tears from the eyes of their friends."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I then drank to their health. After they had been served round with a glass of rum, Farmer’s Brother rose, and spoke to the following effect:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Brother, you have now taken us by the hand, and washed our eyes; our women expect that you will show them equal attention. They are here, waiting your invitation, to receive the same tokens of your friendship which the last evening you gave us. Perhaps in taking them by the hand you may see one who will please you."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A general laugh arose at the speaker’s humor. I arose, and addressed the women:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Sisters, I am very glad to meet you here. I have seen a great many excellent women of various complexions, and doubt not such may be found among you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I invite you to my quarters, where we may eat and drink together in friendship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I now take you by the hand as my sisters."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I then went round, and shook hands with every woman present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The specific object of Col. Pickering’s mission was to assuage the resentment to which the Six Nations had been wrought by the murder of the two Senecas. ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3689170335058404886?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3689170335058404886/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3689170335058404886&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3689170335058404886'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3689170335058404886'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/timothy-pickering-and-great-spirit.html' title='Timothy Pickering and &quot;The Great Spirit&quot;'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4580301216525777455</id><published>2011-10-28T07:03:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.005-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>The History of American Secularism - Charles Taylor</title><content type='html'>At American Creation we haven't paid much attention to Charles Taylor and &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Secular-Age-Charles-Taylor/dp/0674026764"&gt;his book&lt;/a&gt; on secularism, about which I will have more to say later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RbWwVv5aQL0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4580301216525777455?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4580301216525777455/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4580301216525777455&amp;isPopup=true' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4580301216525777455'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4580301216525777455'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/history-of-american-secularism-charles.html' title='The History of American Secularism - Charles Taylor'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/RbWwVv5aQL0/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3815847578351611831</id><published>2011-10-27T17:23:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.005-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>More From Timothy Pickering, Unitarian</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Pickering"&gt;Timothy Pickering&lt;/a&gt; was an important, but non-key Founder.  I pointed out his unitarianism &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/12/baron-von-steuben-and-timothy-pickering.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Unitarianism didn't seem a partisan political theology.  Federalists and Democratic-Republicans were both unitarian and orthodox.  Though unitarians tended to be more drawn from the elite leadership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pickering was a Federalist ally of J. Adams, serving in his cabinet after serving in Washington's.  Then apparently, had a falling out with Adams (see the Wiki).  As a Federalist, he may have had some issues with Jefferson.  Long story short, years later, he rekindled his correspondence with Jefferson and used his "unitarianism" as a bridge.  He sent Jefferson a copy of William Channing's sermon, that Jefferson apparently had already read.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read Jefferson's response to Pickering &lt;a href="http://rrsupplement.blogspot.com/2008/07/thomas-jefferson-to-timothy-pickering.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; where Jefferson proudly identifies as a unitarian, favorably cites Channing along with Joseph Priestley and Richard Price, and of course, slams the Trinity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Less well known is Pickering's initial letter to Jefferson which you may access &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=Jx9CAAAAIAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA330&amp;amp;lpg=PA330&amp;amp;dq=%22Timothy+Pickering%22+%22unitarian%22&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=cqXa1ZwN-T&amp;amp;sig=95qconH0JrDlab6O-DDUjnPVA8A&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=dAmmTqTGLYTk0gHWw7yeDg&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=8&amp;amp;ved=0CEAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and which I below reproduce in its entirety.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Sir,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"You will recollect that Gibbon, in his history of the 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,' treats of the Christian Religion, and that he assigns five secondary causes of its prevalence, and final victory over the established religions of the earth. Among these, one was 'the miraculous powers ascribed to the primitive church.' It seems plain that Gibbon considered the miracles, ascribed to Jesus and bis Apostles, alike destitute of reality as those which are found in the legends of the Church of Rome. In relation to the latter, Bishop Watson, in his letters to the historian, puts 'to his heart' this question, 'Whether her absurd pretensions to that very kind of miraculous powers you have here displayed as operating to the increase of Christianity have not converted half her members to Protestantism, and the other half to infidelity?'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"But absurdities in relation to Christianity are not confined within the pale of the Church of Rome. There are some doctrines taught in Protestant churches, in Europe and America, so repugnant to the ideas I entertain of the perfect wisdom, justice, and benevolence of the Deity, as to authorize the opinion that they could not be the subjects of a divine revelation. I have not found them in the books said to contain such a revelation, and I long ago renounced them. They constituted parts of parental and school instruction from my earliest remembrance; but I never taught them to any of my children. I believed them implicitly till I was of age to think and inquire for myself; and one other doctrine to a later period, that of the Trinity, for I had not heard it called in question in any pulpit, and books on the subject had not fallen in my way. Few, indeed, who can read and understand theological controversies allow themselves time to investigate the merits of the questions involved in them. Official and professional duties occupy the attention of most, and, of numbers of the remaining few of educated men, science, and the general pursuits of literature, engross the leisure hours. Some of these to whom doctrines are presented for religious truths which shock their reason, taking them without further inquiry to be the Christian system, they reject this as an imposture."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[...]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I take the liberty, Sir, to send you Mr. Channing's sermon. Whatever you may think of his views of Christianity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I am sure that the firm and energetic avowal of his opinions, his candor, his ingenuity, and the elegance of his composition, will fully compensate you for the time you shall spend in its perusal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"You cannot be uninformed of a prevalent opinion among your fellow-citizens, that you are one of the learned unbelievers in revelation. Your 'Notes on Virginia' contain expressions which, if they did not originate, have served to strengthen, that opinion. You know the influence of a distinguished name over the minds of its warm, and especially of its youthful, admirers; and should you become, if you are not now, a believer, you will deeply regret the effects of that influence. You can entertain no doubt that, eighteen hundred years ago, there appeared in Judea an extraordinary person, called Jesus Christ, the founder of a sect which, after him, were called Christians; for Tacitus, Suetonius, and the younger Pliny speak of him, and of his sect. You also strongly appreciate the moral precepts purporting to have been delivered orally or in writing by Jesus, and by some of his followers who professed to be ear and eye witnesses of his words and the wonderful works ascribed to him. You have called the religion described in the records of those witnesses our 'benign religion;' and could you banish from your mind the recollection of the strange tenets which have been grafted upon that religion, and examine its history and unsophisticated doctrines with the same unbiassed disposition in which you read the histories and other writings of celebrated Romans, you might not think them unworthy to be believed by the most enlightened minds. Certainly, no one can think himself justly exposed to the charge of credulity for entertaining that religious'faith of which Boyle and Locke and Newton were sincere professors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"A letter from me, unless on business and the common occurrences of life, you would not expect; for to literature I have no pretensions, and in politics we did not agree; but I can disapprove of the principles and oppose the measures of men in public stations with an entire exemption from unkind feelings towards them as individuals. By some I have been injured; but I am not conscious of entertaining a particle of resentment or ill-will towards any human being. In all his imitable perfections, Christians believe it to be their duty to imitate God, ' who' (St. Paul saith) 'will have all men to be Saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.' In this spirit, and in the simple style of antiquity, I bid you, Farewell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Timothy Pickering.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems Pickering was concerned Jefferson wasn't a "Christian" and, were he not, was trying to persuade him to convert to pious unitarianism.  He basically said, "hey I think the Trinity is an imposture too, but that doesn't stop me from being a devout Christian."  Don't throw the baby out out with the bathwater.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But is the Trinity the baby?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-3815847578351611831?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/3815847578351611831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=3815847578351611831&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3815847578351611831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/3815847578351611831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/more-from-timothy-pickering-unitarian.html' title='More From Timothy Pickering, Unitarian'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-525108502269913442</id><published>2011-10-27T16:05:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.006-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Do We Call This a Reverse David Barton?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/10/atheists-billboard-thomas-jefferson_n_1035168.html?1319731892&amp;icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C107962"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-525108502269913442?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/525108502269913442/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=525108502269913442&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/525108502269913442'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/525108502269913442'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/do-we-call-this-reverse-david-barton.html' title='Do We Call This a Reverse David Barton?'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2215257597066675063</id><published>2011-10-27T12:29:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.006-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>More on Whether Mormons are Christian</title><content type='html'>From &lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/node/21534563"&gt;the Economist&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/10/the-economist-mormons-are-in-fact-christians/247450/"&gt;Another from Jeffrey Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/10/are-mormons-christians-ctd.html"&gt;Sullivan again&lt;/a&gt;.  And from &lt;a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2011/10/26/created-and-uncreated/"&gt;Daniel Larison&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2215257597066675063?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2215257597066675063/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2215257597066675063&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2215257597066675063'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2215257597066675063'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/more-on-whether-mormons-are-christian.html' title='More on Whether Mormons are Christian'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4433540773320285224</id><published>2011-10-27T09:30:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.006-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Mark Silk and William Saletan on the Jeffress/Romney Controversy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.spiritual-politics.org/2011/10/jeffress_on_religious_tests.html"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2011/10/vote_against_mormons_mitt_romney_asks_but_rick_perry_doesn_t_ans.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4433540773320285224?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4433540773320285224/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4433540773320285224&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4433540773320285224'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4433540773320285224'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/mark-silk-and-william-saletan-on.html' title='Mark Silk and William Saletan on the Jeffress/Romney Controversy'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4243684337097330704</id><published>2011-10-26T19:18:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.007-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Real Historian Eviscerates Barton Book</title><content type='html'>Ed Brayton has the details &lt;a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2011/10/19/real-historian-eviscerates-barton-book/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste (quoting Prof. Steven Green of Willamette University):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The presentation also fails to explore the other influences in the Founders’ lives that affected their worldviews and personal character. The members of the founding generation were widely read and drew their ideas for republican government from many sources: the common law, Whig political theories, classical republicanism, and Calvinism. Without question, however, the most influential ideological source was Enlightenment rationalism. The Founders were most influenced by the Enlightenment political writers of the previous two generations: John Locke, Baron Montesquieu, Hugo Grotius, Henry St. John, Lord Bolingbroke, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau, among others. Most of these writers were religious nonconformists or skeptics. Also influential were those writers of the so-called Scottish Enlightenment – Frances Hutcheson, David Hume, and Thomas Reid – whose “common sense” rationalism influenced many of the Founders including James Madison, John Adams, and James Wilson. Secular theories were more influential in forming the Founders’ ideas about natural law and civic virtue than was religion…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, the curriculum engages in “proof-texting,” a practice refuted by professional historians. The writers extract selected religious quotations of the various figures without explaining the larger context of the statements (and usually without providing a citation to authority). The curriculum then uses the statement as “proof” of the speaker’s sentiments, disregarding or omitting other likely influences. It fails to account for the sincerity of the speaker’s statement (such as whether the speaker was using irony or pandering to his audience) or whether the speaker likely intended that particular statement on the subject to represent his views, as opposed to other possible statements on the subject…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The additional problem with religious proof-texting is that it fails to explain the role of religious discourse during the founding period and early nineteenth century. As stated, religious rhetoric and imagery were ubiquitous in speeches and other writings because the Bible was one of the few generally available books. The narratives and allegories of the Bible were the stories that were most familiar to people. Unlike today, a person’s use of religious rhetoric during the eighteenth century tells little about his or her own religious devotion. That religiously heterodox figures such as Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine employed religious language should warn against drawing conclusions about a Founder’s personal piety from his statements.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4243684337097330704?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4243684337097330704/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4243684337097330704&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4243684337097330704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4243684337097330704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/real-historian-eviscerates-barton-book.html' title='Real Historian Eviscerates Barton Book'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8179030811585997468</id><published>2011-10-26T18:55:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.007-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Public High School Principal: WallBuilders Speaker Not Appropriate For School Assembly</title><content type='html'>From Chris Rodda &lt;a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/rodda/2011/10/25/public-high-school-principal-wallbuilders-speaker-not-appropriate-for-school-assembly/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8179030811585997468?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8179030811585997468/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8179030811585997468&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8179030811585997468'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8179030811585997468'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/public-high-school-principal.html' title='Public High School Principal: WallBuilders Speaker Not Appropriate For School Assembly'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5565953500893642778</id><published>2011-10-26T18:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.008-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Romney Isn’t Christian, and That’s All Right: Jeffrey Goldberg</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-24/romney-isn-t-christian-and-that-s-all-right-jeffrey-goldberg.html"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;.  Andrew Sullivan reacts &lt;a href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/10/reviving-the-are-mormons-christian-debate.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/10/are-mormons-christians.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-5565953500893642778?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/5565953500893642778/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=5565953500893642778&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5565953500893642778'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/5565953500893642778'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/romney-isnt-christian-and-thats-all.html' title='Romney Isn’t Christian, and That’s All Right: Jeffrey Goldberg'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-7305805654759562409</id><published>2011-10-21T09:21:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.008-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>William L. Anderson on Christian Nationalism</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson325.html"&gt; Very interesting outside the box thinking&lt;/a&gt; from an anti-statist evangelical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A taste:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We also hear that the USA was founded "as a Christian country," and I remember hearing a talk from someone who believed that had the authors of the U.S. Constitution made it clear that this country was "Christian," that somehow things would be different today. That really is nonsense; for that matter, a number of European countries at one time officially were "Christian" nations, and today none of those things matter, as no place in the world is as secular as Europe today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the connection between historical Christianity and the effect it should have upon the actions of those that govern us was changed permanently in the United States during the 19th Century, first with Unitarianism and then with Progressivism. The political actions of both liberal and conservative "evangelicals" today are reflective of the secular, state-embracing political philosophies that rose during the 1800s and early 1900s, not the Christianity that was practiced by the Early Church, and certainly not of the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot emphasize that point enough. When American evangelicals launch campaigns to deal with attempts to outlaw the "under God" portion of the Pledge of Allegiance, they are not preserving religious freedom, nor are not paying homage to the ideals of liberty that inspired many of the founders of this nation. Instead, they are endorsing a pledge created by a socialist who despised the founders of this country and who hated the views that the framers of the U.S. Constitution had on law and the state. Indeed, the Pledge of Allegiance is the antithesis of all of those ideals upon which conservative evangelicals claim to be supporting and it is collectivist and Progressivist to the core. Yet, because it has the phrase "under God," Christians are willing to engage in what only can be idolatry and pledge their troth to another god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having grown up in the conservative evangelical subculture and still being part of it, I have picked up some insights as to why people who believe in God and who hold to the inerrancy of the Bible have sold out to the State. The answers are more complicated and nuanced than one might expect to read in a publication like the New York Times, which treats evangelicals as though they were alien invaders who have no right even to exist in our society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because I am dealing with the modern evangelicals, I will not cover the influence of the Unitarians of the 19th Century, except to say that they were part of nearly every major advancement of State power, including the public school movement in Massachusetts, and the Civil War. Certainly, by the end of the 1800s, the Unitarian influence began to wane, as theological liberalism took hold in the major Protestant denominations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-7305805654759562409?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/7305805654759562409/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=7305805654759562409&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/7305805654759562409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/7305805654759562409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/william-l-anderson-on-christian.html' title='William L. Anderson on Christian Nationalism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-2369567473242362864</id><published>2011-10-20T17:14:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.008-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Ben Franklin's Proto-Mormonism</title><content type='html'>I was thinking of writing this post only to see that &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/05/ben-franklins-proto-mormonism-and-how.html"&gt;I had already written it in 2009&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find it fascinating how (&lt;a href="http://www.historycarper.com/resources/twobf2/articles.htm"&gt;in 1728&lt;/a&gt;) Franklin, were he serious, thought a cold deistic all powerful God created the universe but that the warm theistic deity he would worship was the God of our solar system, created by the ultimate unknowable God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So maybe God the Father is actually a created being.  That answers the "what caused Him?" question.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-2369567473242362864?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/2369567473242362864/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=2369567473242362864&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2369567473242362864'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/2369567473242362864'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/ben-franklins-proto-mormonism.html' title='Ben Franklin&apos;s Proto-Mormonism'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4748223663966955976</id><published>2011-10-19T10:08:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.009-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Mormonism Isn't Orthodox, But The Founding Presidents Weren't Orthodox Either</title><content type='html'>[&lt;i&gt;Note:  I originally intended for this to be published at a notable right of center blog where I have an opportunity; but their vibe is currently too pro-Perry, anti-Romney for this.  Rather than worry about getting it placed somewhere else, I'm just running it here.&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conservative evangelicals Bryan Fischer and the Reverend Robert Jeffress recently controversially suggested that Mormonism is not Christianity, but rather a false cult, and that "Christians" should factor that in when deciding for whom to vote for public office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fischer and Jeffress stress &lt;a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a6_3.html"&gt;Article 6, Clause 3 of the Constitution&lt;/a&gt; restricts government only from imposing formal religious tests. The point is true enough. Voters can vote for whomever they want, for whatever reasons, even very bad ones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, in a nation founded on ecumenical and non-sectarian religious principles, imposing a strictly orthodox private religious test seems a bad idea. But both &lt;a href="http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147512646"&gt;Fischer&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelical-baptist-pastor-mormonism-is-a-cult-mitt-romney-is-not-a-christian-57626/"&gt;Jeffress&lt;/a&gt; appeal to the American Founding for their stance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their appeal is inapt. Attempting to justify his position, Jeffress referenced &lt;a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=2330&amp;amp;chapter=220814&amp;amp;layout=html&amp;amp;Itemid=27"&gt;John Jay who wrote in 1816&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hmm... Mitt Romney, as a Mormon, claims to be a "Christian" and accepts Jesus as the divine, resurrected Savior of mankind. So what is the problem? Space forbids me to detail all of the problems evangelicals have with Mormonism. But, at base, Mormonism denies historic orthodoxy as found in doctrines like the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed"&gt;Nicene&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed"&gt;Apostles' Creeds&lt;/a&gt;; to disbelieve in orthodox Trinitarianism, as it were, is to disbelieve in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926"&gt;"Mere Christianity"&lt;/a&gt; as CS Lewis termed it. After the late &lt;a href="http://www.waltermartin.com/cults.html"&gt;Walter Martin&lt;/a&gt;, conservative evangelicals often term non-Trinitarian religionists, like the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others, as "cults."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though the term "cults" was not used during the American Founding era to describe non-Trinitarians, the "orthodox" then (especially clergy) did regard these "heretics" as not "Christian."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But whatever John Jay meant in the aforementioned quotation, America was not founded so that orthodox evangelical voters could put Presidential candidates through their strict private religious tests. (Ironically, Jay himself may not have passed the orthodox Trinitarian test for "mere Christianity" as &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=59dQoRNSwxMC&amp;amp;pg=PA217&amp;amp;lpg=PA217&amp;amp;dq=%22It+appeared+to+me+that+the+Trinity+was+a+Fact+fully+revealed+and+substantiated,+but+that+the+quo+modo+was+incomprehensible+by+human+Ingenuity.&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=zxK6f83HjI&amp;amp;sig=7tMapKVm-PaxLDToky0YWB4Z0Oo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=UBOaTpmVCcjm0QGlxsijBA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=7&amp;amp;ved=0CEcQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%22It%20appeared%20to%20me%20that%20the%20Trinity%20was%20a%20Fact%20fully%20revealed%20and%20substantiated%2C%20but%20that%20the%20quo%20modo%20was%20incomprehensible%20by%20human%20Ingenuity.&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;evidence shows&lt;/a&gt; he doubted the content contained in his own church's Trinitarian creeds.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, if it were, the experiment failed from the start; the early American Presidents were not "orthodox."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most know that Thomas Jefferson, who served two terms as third President, was not an orthodox Trinitarian Christian.  He did, interestingly, &lt;a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/133/Letter_from_Thomas_Jefferson_to_Benjamin_Rush_1.html"&gt;think of himself as a "Christian"&lt;/a&gt; while &lt;a href="http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_short.html"&gt;denying every single tenet of historic orthodoxy.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fewer know that John Adams too, failed, and to quote history professor &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Was-America-Founded-Christian-Nation/dp/0664235042"&gt;John Fea's masterful new book&lt;/a&gt; on the Christian Nation controversy, "fail[ed] miserably" the test for Christian orthodoxy.  Adams, &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=59dQoRNSwxMC&amp;amp;pg=PA220&amp;amp;dq=john+adams+unitarian+hutson&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=0hqaTp7-HOry0gG4oKSsBA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;who identified as a "unitarian" his entire adult life&lt;/a&gt;, bitterly mocked the doctrines of the Trinity, which he termed a &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=59dQoRNSwxMC&amp;amp;pg=PA223&amp;amp;lpg=PA223&amp;amp;dq=john+adams+sacerdotal+impostures&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=zxK6f85JjK&amp;amp;sig=FUiLJyedCXzXJMmzfOD2uua-ZzU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=6RuaTqydOMfs0gHiuoi5BA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=4&amp;amp;ved=0CDAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=john%20adams%20sacerdotal%20impostures&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;"sacerdotal imposture[],"&lt;/a&gt; and the Incarnation, which he said "&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=sZ0R2JbXic8C&amp;amp;pg=PA128&amp;amp;lpg=PA128&amp;amp;dq=stupified+the+Christian+World.&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=yTu4RKpKOk&amp;amp;sig=mP6mXbgsgPud4Dh1iKjGvrAaxx0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=zx6aTvSfM8Lh0QHOxO3BBw&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=stupified%20the%20Christian%20World.&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;stupified the Christian World&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it's not as though George Washington and James Madison, respectively, the first and fourth American Presidents, the "father of America" and the "architect of the Constitution," were paragons of Christian orthodoxy. While not as overtly unitarian as the second and third American Presidents, Washington and Madison, from their own words, offer little to demonstrate their belief in Christian orthodoxy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed, Washington's own orthodox minister, the Reverend James Abercrombie, &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=YXJIAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA597&amp;amp;dq=washington+james+abercrombie+real+christian&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=dCGaTsH6C8f30gG0-aWtBA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=3&amp;amp;ved=0CDoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=washington%20james%20abercrombie%20real%20christian&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;claimed Washington's systematic avoidance of communion meant&lt;/a&gt; he was not a "real Christian" because his actions "disregard[ed] an ordinance so solemnly enjoined by the divine Author of our holy religion, and considered as a channel of divine grace."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And well respected orthodox Episcopalian, William Meade, third Bishop of Virginia, well acquainted with Madison, &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA99&amp;amp;lpg=PA99&amp;amp;dq=bishop+william+meade+infidel+principles&amp;amp;sig=pEWJucA0VZl55YTs9w2Eii8hrdU&amp;amp;ei=nyWaTp2hJ8X00gGDo7GdBA&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;sqi=2&amp;amp;id=sEcsAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;ots=dV1Rb09yPY#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;claimed the fourth President's&lt;/a&gt; "political associations with those of &lt;span class="gstxt_hlt"&gt;infidel principles, &lt;/span&gt;of whom there were many in his day, if they did not actually change" his youthful, conventionally religious spirit, "subjected him to the general suspicion of it."  (One prominent unitarian contemporary of James Madison, &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=UBAFAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=RA1-PA311&amp;amp;lpg=RA1-PA311&amp;amp;dq=%22james+madison%22+untarian+doctrines&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=iorS8om5sp&amp;amp;sig=3bQdWgfOj7yVqtEWQaFjD0dICuU#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;George Ticknor, founder of the Boston Public Library, claims&lt;/a&gt; Madison personally professed unitarianism to him during a dinner conversation.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In all likelihood, &lt;a href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/ch/2008/issue99/10.38.html"&gt;the first American President who might pass&lt;/a&gt; Fischer and Jeffress's orthodox test for Christianity was seventh President Andrew Jackson!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The early American Presidents were not perfect, but they well led the newly formed nation. Their example shows little connection between belief in orthodox Trinitarian doctrine and Presidential leadership acumen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please keep that in mind when considering how Mitt Romney's Mormonism might impact his qualifications for the American Presidency.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4748223663966955976?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4748223663966955976/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4748223663966955976&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4748223663966955976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4748223663966955976'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/mormonism-isnt-orthodox-but-founding.html' title='Mormonism Isn&apos;t Orthodox, But The Founding Presidents Weren&apos;t Orthodox Either'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1555505487449481102</id><published>2011-10-17T19:47:00.008-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:57:50.298-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Van Dyke&apos;s posts'/><title type='text'>Thomas Paine: America is a Protestant Nation</title><content type='html'>Thomas Paine was the Founding's most famous "deist-not Christian," but really, that's what he said, I kid thee not.  You could look it up.  In fact, I'll save you the trouble---I did a near-complete &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2010/04/thomas-paines-common-sense-as-heard-by.html"&gt;exegesis of Thomas Paine's famous "Common Sense"&lt;/a&gt; awhile back, almost line-by-line.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Common Sense" actually a short pamphlet, sold over 500,000 copies in the colonies to a population of only 2,500,000, and Lord knows how many other people read it---or had it read to them---as it was passed around.  Megamax historian Gordon S. Wood calls it "the most incendiary and popular pamphlet of the entire revolutionary era," a rather modest claim.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The funny thing is, it's not as Enlightenment as you might think from the Founding era's truest Deist; it's very Biblical.  While it's true the colonists had many selfish economic reasons to favor independence---the "marxist" interpretation, if you will---it's pretty clear they needed to assuage their religious consciences that revolution was OK with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.ushistory.org/paine/images/tpaine.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 87px; height: 100px;" src="http://www.ushistory.org/paine/images/tpaine.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Even the distance at which the Almighty hath placed England and America is a strong and natural proof that the authority of the one over the other, was never the design of Heaven. The time likewise at which the Continent was discovered, adds weight to the argument, and the manner in which it was peopled, encreases the force of it. The Reformation was preceded by the discovery of America: As if the Almighty graciously meant to open a sanctuary to the persecuted in future years, when home should afford neither friendship nor safety."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Divine Providence created America as a safe haven for Protestant dissenters?  Yup.  There you have it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, since Thomas Paine later wrote &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Reason"&gt;"The Age of Reason"&lt;/a&gt; in the 1790s, where he rejected the Bible and Christian dogma [America liked it so much that only 6 people attended his funeral], he probably didn't believe this part of "Common Sense," probably. [Although you never know...]   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there it is, and there it was, in Paine's own words.  Now relax, this isn't to say that the United States of America should be a Protestant Nation in 2011, or people thought that by the time they wrote the Constitution in 1787.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will betcha, though, that not one person in a 100 knows that Thomas Paine, the Revolution's most famous deist, was saying it in 1776, in the most famous and popular essay of his times. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because I didn't know, until I read the damn thing for meself.  Read &lt;a href="http://www.ushistory.org/paine/commonsense/"&gt;the whole thing here&lt;/a&gt; for yrself, or peek at &lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2010/04/thomas-paines-common-sense-as-heard-by.html"&gt;this annotated version&lt;/a&gt;.  History isn't dead, it's alive, if you dog it a little on your own.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1555505487449481102?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1555505487449481102/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1555505487449481102&amp;isPopup=true' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1555505487449481102'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1555505487449481102'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/thomas-paine-america-is-protestant.html' title='Thomas Paine: America is a Protestant Nation'/><author><name>Tom Van Dyke</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/img/111/1485/320/TVDH.2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-8241572506783070262</id><published>2011-10-13T11:31:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.009-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>John Jay's Archive, Richard Gardiner &amp; Creedal Christianity</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&amp;amp;staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=2327&amp;amp;Itemid=27"&gt;John Jay's correspondence&lt;/a&gt; is available at Liberty Fund.  There is a lot of great stuff there. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jay is a Founder, generally conceded as orthodox Christian.  And he does offer some quotations that sound "Christian Nation" like.  Certainly, Christian Nationalists have used (abused?) those quotations from Jay.  Rev. Robert Jeffress recently used Jay's quotation to justify why he would vote for the "Christian" Rick Perry over the "non-Christian" Mormon Mitt Romney.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Jay was a lifelong Anglican, a church warden, and was involved in the reformation of Anglicanism to Episcopalianism.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While investigating the exact religious beliefs of as many American Founders I could, I began to think very hard about the concept of creedalism, and that various Founders, in some way affiliated with churches connected to doctrinally orthodox creeds, could disbelieve at least some of what their churches officially endorsed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this debate over who exactly believed what, we look for smoking guns to "settle" the issue.  Some use, in the absence of smoking gun quotations, formal affiliation to churches and their official doctrines, as shorthand for what exactly a Founder believed.  Indeed, if one held an official position in said churches -- church warden, vestryman, godfather, etc. -- then one probably DID swear and oath to said church's official doctrines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enter the concept of an "Anglican Whig."  According to Anglicanism's official doctrines, the King of England was both head of church AND state.  And when Anglican church MEMBERS swore oaths they swore to remain loyal to the Crown.  There was a term for the oath and doctrinal fundamentalists in the Anglican Church in late 18th Century America:  Tories.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In order to claim America's Founders as orthodox Christians via their church affiliation, Christian Nationalists have to turn them into oath fundamentalists and argue something like if you are not an oath fundamentalist, you are a liar or a hypocrite.  See for instance, &lt;a href="http://home.roadrunner.com/%7Erickgardiner/texts/denom.html"&gt;Christian Nationalist Richard Gardiner making this argument.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Accordingly, because they violated their high church Tory oaths when they rebelled against the Crown, Anglican Whigs such as Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Henry, Jay and others were "liars when they swore to God to adopt the confessions of their churches when they became members of these churches" to use Dr. Gardiner's exact words.&amp;nbsp; (Again, I don't make that judgment; Christian Nationalists like Dr. Gardiner do.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Jay, unlike Washington and Madison, and like Jefferson was fairly explicit in detailing what he believed, religiously, in his private letters.&amp;nbsp; (Jefferson, the good Anglican he [not!], rejected every single tenet of orthodox Christianity.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2010/09/was-john-jay-christian-hypocrite.html"&gt;As I've written before&lt;/a&gt;, John Jay, though more apparently "biblical" and "Christian" than other Founders, was no "oath fundamentalist" regarding his Anglicanism-Episcopalianism.&amp;nbsp; Christian Nationalists may enjoy Jay's letter &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=uwAVAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA320&amp;amp;lpg=PA320&amp;amp;dq=%22in+forming+and+settling+my+belief%22&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=gcNF1b4d-t&amp;amp;sig=9zzzN42_OPPY-5NRFKQi21PQDrI&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=-7kPTIaHO4L88AbDnomXCQ&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=7&amp;amp;ved=0CC4Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%22in%20forming%20and%20settling%20my%20belief%22&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;to Samuel Miller, Feb. 18, 1822, when he wrote&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"In  forming and settling my belief relative to the doctrines of  Christianity, I adopted no articles from creeds, but such only as, on  careful examination, I found to be confirmed by the Bible."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"No creed but the Bible" may make Jay sound like a good late 18th Century Quaker, but it does not represent what orthodox Anglicanism or Episcopalianism stood for at that time.  Anglicanism, and then Episcopalianism, in its official doctrines endorsed not just "the Bible" as revelation, but also the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed"&gt;Athanasian Creed&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://christianbookshelf.org/various/creeds_of_christendom_with_a_history_and_critical_notes/_82_american_revision_of.htm"&gt;39 Articles.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And indeed, when the Bible is unmoored from orthodox Trinitarian creeds, heresy in the form of biblical non-Trinitarianism inevitably results as it did in Jay's case. In his private letters, Jay's endorsement of "the Bible" but no "creeds" led him to seem not only utterly unconcerned with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_doctrine"&gt;Anglican doctrine&lt;/a&gt;, but also to doubt the Trinity, or at least the understanding of the Trinity as represented by the Athanasian Creed (what his church, what he took official oaths to, endorsed).  From the same letter to Samuel Miller, Feb. 18, 1822:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It appeared to me that the Trinity was a Fact fully revealed and substantiated, but that the quo modo was incomprehensible by human Ingenuity. According to sundry Creeds, the divine Being whom we denominate the second Person in the Trinity had before all worlds been so generated or begotten by the first Person in the Trinity, as to be his coeval, coequal and coeternal Son. For proof of this I searched the Scriptures diligently -- but without Success. I therefore consider the Position of being at least of questionable Orthodoxy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-8241572506783070262?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/8241572506783070262/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=8241572506783070262&amp;isPopup=true' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8241572506783070262'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/8241572506783070262'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/john-jays-archive-richard-gardiner.html' title='John Jay&apos;s Archive, Richard Gardiner &amp;amp; Creedal Christianity'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4449808236842210295</id><published>2011-10-11T13:07:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T05:53:22.010-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowe&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Jeffress</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/individuals/robert-jeffress"&gt;The good Reverend&lt;/a&gt; is entitled to his opinion; but his religion is NOT the political theology of the American Founding and does not well mix with American politics, certainly NOT the American Presidency.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-4449808236842210295?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/4449808236842210295/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=4449808236842210295&amp;isPopup=true' title='39 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4449808236842210295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/4449808236842210295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/jeffress.html' title='Jeffress'/><author><name>Jonathan Rowe</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='19' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3653/360/1600/Jon%20Rowe1.jpg'/></author><thr:total>39</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-1056940228420574789</id><published>2011-10-10T20:44:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-10-10T20:44:02.627-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='DeForrest&apos;s Posts'/><title type='text'>Benjamin Franklin's version of the Lord's Prayer</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;Like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin was fascinated with the New Testament; Franklin had on occasion considered bringing out his own edited edition of the New Testament, but that idea, sadly, never came to fruition. Franklin did, however, edit the Lord's Prayer, commonly known as the Our Father, to better reflect what he thought the true meaning of the prayer was. Those who consider Franklin to be a deist would do well to ponder the words he chose to use in this prayer, words that indicate that God is both our provider and our judge:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;Heavenly Father,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;May all revere thee,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;And become thy dutiful children and faithful subjects.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;4. &amp;nbsp;May thy laws be obeyed on earth, as perfectly as they are in heaven.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;5. &amp;nbsp;Provide for us this day, as thou hast hitherto daily done.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;6. &amp;nbsp;Forgive us our trespasses, and enable us to forgive those who offend us.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: small; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;7. &amp;nbsp;Keep us out of temptation, and deliver us from evil.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;Taken from&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;In God We Trust: &amp;nbsp;The Religious Beliefs and Ideas of the American Founding Fathers&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;, edited by Norman Cousins (Harper &amp;amp; Brothers: 1958), pg. 21.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1237087217187172116-1056940228420574789?l=americancreation.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/feeds/1056940228420574789/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1237087217187172116&amp;postID=1056940228420574789&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1056940228420574789'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1237087217187172116/posts/default/1056940228420574789'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2011/10/benjamin-franklins-version-of-lords.html' title='Benjamin Franklin&apos;s version of the Lord&apos;s Prayer'/><author><name>Mark in Spokane</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
