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...<a href="https://cse.google.cf/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnockcode.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Best SEO Agency in Dubai</a><br /><a href="https://club.panasonic.jp/member/terms/?siteId=B1&returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Fnockcode.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Best SEO Agency in Dubai</a><br /><a href="https://affiliates.bookdepository.com/scripts/click.php?a_aid=Alexa1202&a_bid=9abb5269&desturl=https%3A%2F%2Fnockcode.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Best SEO Agency in Dubai</a><br /><a href="https://maps.google.co.zw/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fnockcode.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Best SEO Agency in Dubai</a><br /><a href="https://register.transportscotland.gov.uk/Subscribe/WidgetSignup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnockcode.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Best SEO Agency in Dubai</a><br />Usman Awaishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07702450732201188214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-19678322842325400882008-08-20T12:24:00.000-06:002008-08-20T12:24:00.000-06:00Regarding the Washington "quotes" - this is easy e...Regarding the Washington "quotes" - this is easy enough to settle:<BR/><BR/>http://www.snopes.com/quotes/thejews.asp<BR/><BR/>You're wrong, Barbara. There you have it. Van Dyke was right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-60911731361773685502008-08-20T06:42:00.000-06:002008-08-20T06:42:00.000-06:00.In response to Abbott's, "If someone is to be att....<BR/>In response to Abbott's, "<I>If someone is to be attacked it should be for their failings or short comings.</I>", we need a side bar blog to flesh out related issues that can go off topic.<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-12859777306408288902008-08-19T20:38:00.000-06:002008-08-19T20:38:00.000-06:00Pinky: "Or don't you think your prejudice is showi...Pinky: "Or don't you think your prejudice is showing?"<BR/><BR/>We might argue that <I>prejudice</I> is the a different perspective of <I>preference</I>. <BR/><BR/>As it is my preference that superficial prejudice (ex: ethnic and religious) be suppressed, you can qualify me as showing a prejudice.<BR/><BR/>However, I think it is quite a different thing to critique and target an individual for their <I>actions</I> than to attack them for the ethnic / religious / cultural labels which are applied to them.<BR/><BR/>My genuine view of Barbara's position is that she would like us to embrace and take actions to propagate her anti-Jew ideology ("Jew" being a superficial label associated with an ethnic, religious, or cultural group(s)) ... but she has not provided any just and reasoned motive to do so.<BR/><BR/>Barbara *has* pointed out that many Jews have been materially successful in their lives.<BR/><BR/>But that is goal that is admirable, and should be encouraged among all people. I don't think it just to attack "Jews" for their successes.<BR/><BR/>If someone is to be attacked it should be for their failings or short comings.bpabbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047791198702983998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-55775058572016416922008-08-19T06:01:00.000-06:002008-08-19T06:01:00.000-06:00.My point is that I am sympathetic to people who a....<BR/>My point is that I am sympathetic to people who are discriminated against based on prejudice of one kind or another.<BR/>.<BR/>So, I have to be sympathetic to Barbara as much as I would be to you if people where putting you down out of hand.<BR/>.<BR/>Or don't you think your prejudice is showing?<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-19781150638661917552008-08-18T19:01:00.000-06:002008-08-18T19:01:00.000-06:00Pinky: "I just don't know, Abbott. I had a Jewish...Pinky: "I just don't know, Abbott. I had a Jewish brother-in-law. He was one heck of a salesman. I was a Yellow Pages Account Manager for the Bell System and recommended him to my boss when I knew there was an opening. He was brought in for an interview. Later, my boss took me aside and chewed me out good for having recommended a Jew. That was the beginning of a chain of events that caused me to resign my position. [...] So, I guess I'm not going to chime in and write Barbara off without a fair go."<BR/><BR/>Pinky, I'm confused ... Is your point;<BR/><BR/>(1) It was the Jew's fault, so you are sympathetic to Barbara's ideology?<BR/><BR/>(2) Don't be supportive of a Jew because it will cost you?<BR/><BR/>(3) or something else?bpabbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047791198702983998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-16223733530498251432008-08-18T14:24:00.000-06:002008-08-18T14:24:00.000-06:00I just don't know, Abbott. .I had a Jewish brother...I just don't know, Abbott. <BR/>.<BR/>I had a Jewish brother-in-law. He was one heck of a salesman. I was a Yellow Pages Account Manager for the Bell System and recommended him to my boss when I knew there was an opening. He was brought in for an interview.<BR/>.<BR/>Later, my boss took me aside and chewed me out good for having recommended a Jew. That was the beginning of a chain of events that caused me to resign my position. I have always been supportive of the equal rights of individuals. You may even notice that characteristic of mine here in these blogs. I have this thing about justice--a carry over from my Fundamental Baptist days.<BR/>.<BR/>So, I guess I'm not going to chime in and write Barbara off without a fair go. I know one thing for sure, the situation has turned around 180 degrees since my boss refused to put my Jewish brother-in-law through the hiring process where he would have been accepted or refused based on other traits than his Jewishness.<BR/>.<BR/>But, it may be a mute point as it looks as though Barbara isn't going to stick around. That's too bad as I'm finding the paper on Strauss quite interesting. I remember being is Boston a few years back and reading a full page article on Leo Strauss and his influence in Washington, D.C.<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-47868208039098401252008-08-18T14:11:00.000-06:002008-08-18T14:11:00.000-06:00Pinky,My greatest objection to Barbara's posting s...Pinky,<BR/><BR/>My greatest objection to Barbara's posting style is the lack of substance ... and the volume of rhetoric. The rhetoric I find most objectionable his her reliance on demonizing Jews ... as if by calling an individual, country, position, etc "Jewish" automatically condemns it :-(<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind that I am very unhappy with the what Israel deals with its neighbors and treats Palestine.<BR/><BR/>For good examples of anti-Jewish rhetoric, look at the many quotes she has provided above. Notice that these might be indicative of individual opinions but do not reflect upon an intent of the founders to persecute any group because some one called them Jewish. <BR/><BR/>Being Jewish can be ethnic or religious, or both. What does Barbara's position have to do with any ethnicity or religion? Is she attacking ethnicity or religion ... or something else?<BR/><BR/>I think it is the latter. <BR/><BR/>Barbara: "Jews have enormous control, power, money and influence in our government and our media."<BR/><BR/>Sounds like an attack on the success of Jews.<BR/><BR/>While it is rather clear that ethnic Jews have more disproportionately successful (at least it appears so to me), why is that a problem?<BR/><BR/>Don't we all strive for success? ... is the success of any group a justification to persecute it?<BR/><BR/>In any event, it appears to me that Barbara objects to the success of "Jews". But why is a successful Jew any more a problem than a successful Protestant Evangelist, or Sunni?<BR/><BR/>Please notice Barbara does not attack those with control, power, money and influence in our government and our media. She attacks the Jews and entices us to join her hunt with rhetoric, not substance.bpabbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047791198702983998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-4946972702384630952008-08-18T13:57:00.000-06:002008-08-18T13:57:00.000-06:00.By the way, the truth is out on the Cone of Silen....<BR/>By the way, the truth is out on the<B> <I>Cone of Silence</I></B> in which McCain was supposedly sequestered so he couldn't hear how Obama handled the questions. <BR/>.<BR/>Are we gonna get another liar in the White House?Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-45862007920280096442008-08-18T13:10:00.000-06:002008-08-18T13:10:00.000-06:00.How about it, Barbara? Tom is accusing you of pos....<BR/>How about it, Barbara? Tom is accusing you of posting quotes that are patently fraudulent. Is that true? Can you prove Tom is wrong?<BR/>.<BR/>Tom, why should the reader take your word over Barbara's?<BR/>.<BR/>As far as your post being hi-jacked, Tom, It's still there. No one has absconded with it.<BR/>.<BR/>You said your purpose was to make a point about George Washington?Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-61567126808093817732008-08-18T13:09:00.000-06:002008-08-18T13:09:00.000-06:00tom van dyke you are the only one who thinks those...tom van dyke you are the only one who thinks those quotes are frauds. <BR/><BR/>I think maybe you are a fraud. Jews are certainly free to discuss Christians so I don't why you have a problem.<BR/><BR/>Rick Warren and his Christian forum cannot be discussed out of the context of the power of Jews in America. Jews do not represent what our forefathers intended.<BR/><BR/>A Christian political forum is news. Jews however are all over the media and even CSpan is run by one so its certainly not news when the candidates prostrate themselves before the jews.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless it is your blog and I will leave as you suggest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-43576905270149608242008-08-18T12:46:00.000-06:002008-08-18T12:46:00.000-06:00The quotes from Washington and Franklin are patent...The quotes from Washington and Franklin are patent frauds. I didn't even bother with the rest of them. I protest giving this individual the time of day. <BR/><BR/>Hey, <A HREF="http://www.americancreation2.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Here's a great new blog</A>. I suggest you take this over there. They could use the traffic.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-5612400920713146392008-08-18T10:19:00.000-06:002008-08-18T10:19:00.000-06:00Heeeay Aabbot!.You say you find the majority of Ba...<B>Heeeay Aabbot!</B><BR/>.<BR/>You say you find the majority of Barbara's comments objectionable.<BR/>.<BR/>Could you list a couple and tell what you think is objectionable about them?<BR/>.<BR/>I'm interested in that.<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-90977418837268248542008-08-18T09:06:00.000-06:002008-08-18T09:06:00.000-06:00Pinky to me: "It looks to me as though you are usi...Pinky to me: "It looks to me as though you are using an off the rack argument to close Barbara down. I can’t go along with that."<BR/><BR/>Actually, I have no desire to have her closed down. I don't want to censor her. However, I do think that she should stay on topic and provide posts with substance. <BR/><BR/>While I find the majority of her posts objectionable, there is only a minority that are in need moderation (imo).bpabbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047791198702983998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-14157163271619243242008-08-18T08:00:00.000-06:002008-08-18T08:00:00.000-06:00I printed the paper out. I will read it..Barbara w...I printed the paper out. I will read it.<BR/>.<BR/>Barbara writes, <I>"Today we are a country of various groups with each seeking its own welfare at the expense of the general welfare. That is not what our forefathers intended."</I><BR/>.<BR/>What do you think the Forefathers intended. And, what proof do you present to show that is true?Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-52507024132290469032008-08-18T07:53:00.000-06:002008-08-18T07:53:00.000-06:00.I have not called you a bigot..I am not an expert....<BR/>I have not called you a bigot.<BR/>.<BR/>I am not an expert on the Founding.<BR/>.<BR/>Nor do I know enough about what you have written here to refute any of it.<BR/>.<BR/>For a fact, I find it most interesting.<BR/>.<BR/>And, to the degree you stick to the rules here, I will defend your right to publish. I have so far, haven't I?<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-40571374912832385092008-08-18T07:45:00.000-06:002008-08-18T07:45:00.000-06:00Pinky did you read http://www.nhinet.org/ryn18-1.h...Pinky did you read <BR/>http://www.nhinet.org/ryn18-1.htm<BR/>for a better understanding of why the Jews attack Christians or White Anglo Saxon Protestants - in order to remove the old ruling class WASPs and replace them.<BR/><BR/>That is the only reason I dislike criticism of Christians. Of course Christians must become intellectual and educated and that will lead to thinking that changes everything. But it must be Christians themselves and Americans other than Jews who bring about these changes because the Jews do not have good intentions toward Americans or Christians.<BR/><BR/>Our forefathers certainly tolerated Christians even if they had contempt for what they believed. There is no tolerance among today's citizens even tho they are not half as brilliant as our forefathers.<BR/><BR/>Humans evolved with a need to believe in a higher power. So we should use the Church to promote the general welfare of America since the church will probably always be with us and should probably play a productive role in society. But Christians have to be smart and educated and not have dogmas and lowbrow thinking like those in the right wing.<BR/><BR/>For many people the church plays a role socially and it is a place of comfort in times of trouble. It also held us together for over 200 years and it symbolized that we were a common people who shared the same goals and beliefs which informed our government.<BR/><BR/>Today we are a country of various groups with each seeking its own welfare at the expense of the general welfare. That is not what our forefathers intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-15547927318918699712008-08-18T07:31:00.000-06:002008-08-18T07:31:00.000-06:00Pinky why don't you put together a paper that refu...Pinky why don't you put together a paper that refutes what I say since you are the expert on our founding fathers and history.<BR/><BR/>This is supposed to be a forum and debate isn't it. So if you oppose what I say then let me see YOUR arguments. All anyone has done so far is to delete my comments and call me a bigot. Which of course does not refute anything I say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-17256985701780784722008-08-18T07:27:00.000-06:002008-08-18T07:27:00.000-06:00.Bingo~.<BR/><B>Bingo~</B>Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.com