tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post6075900849277262715..comments2024-03-28T10:44:30.518-06:00Comments on American Creation: Brad Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17669677047039491864noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-77016145766557674992008-07-05T13:07:00.000-06:002008-07-05T13:07:00.000-06:00Brian: "For my own part, I'm obviously willing to ...Brian: "For my own part, I'm obviously willing to concede it as a 'faith' issue. It can't be proven one way or the other, BUT....let's not just dismiss it because people disagree. That's fallacious reasoning."<BR/><BR/>Outside of math, nothing can be "proven".<BR/><BR/>Regarding your point on "fallacious reasoning", I agree.<BR/><BR/>I'll go further and add; that just because an opinion of a claim is agreed upon does not substantiate the claim one way or the other.<BR/><BR/>In combination; opinions of non-evidenced claims are not evidence.<BR/><BR/>If there is no evidence, then there is no basis to substantiate the claim, and no <I>reasoned</I> motive to accept it as factual.bpabbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047791198702983998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-83083554566035640452008-06-30T14:26:00.000-06:002008-06-30T14:26:00.000-06:00The fact that the British and the Americans may di...The fact that the British and the Americans may disagree on whether God was in the fog at Brooklyn Heights has no bearing whatsoever on whether God actually had something to do with it. <BR/><BR/>For my own part, I'm obviously willing to concede it as a 'faith' issue. It can't be proven one way or the other, BUT....let's not just dismiss it because people disagree. That's fallacious reasoning.Brian Tubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15412421076480479001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-79637548278078373192008-06-30T11:24:00.000-06:002008-06-30T11:24:00.000-06:00I have a hard time believing that a man like Benja...I have a hard time believing that a man like Benjamin Franklin did not have heavy influence on the other Founders.<BR/>.<BR/>Franklin was an admitted Deist and here are his five principles of Deism:***<BR/><BR/>1. That there is a God who made all things.<BR/><BR/>2. That he governs the world by his providence<BR/><BR/>3. That he ought to be worshiped by adoration, prayer, and thanksgiving, that that the most acceptable service to God is doing good to man.<BR/><BR/>4. That the soul is immortal.<BR/><BR/>5. And, that God will certainly reward virtue and punish vice, either here or hereafter..<BR/><BR/>There is no mention that Franklin believed that God would not intervene in the affairs of humans. In fact, it appears as though he believed God would do so.<BR/><BR/>***<I>(Source Course Guidebook, The American Mind, Professor Allen C. Guielzo, Gettysburg College, pp 25, 26.)</I>Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-86221819676081278012008-06-30T07:12:00.000-06:002008-06-30T07:12:00.000-06:00.A certain characteristic of the way some thinkers....<BR/>A certain characteristic of the way some thinkers handle history might be called the <I>dehumanization of history</I>; that is, the thought that God creates events that affect outcomes.<BR/>.<BR/>To the contrary, others see that the larger mass of people are moving in directions that cause society to develop as it does.<BR/>.<BR/>.<BR/>But, maybe that goes over the heads of those "historians" with axes to grind?<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-55937707005252336492008-06-29T17:10:00.000-06:002008-06-29T17:10:00.000-06:00Isn't this always the case? One man's providentia...Isn't this always the case? One man's providential intervention is another man's bad luck. Just look at the Puritans. They all proclaimed what a blessing it was to come to a fertile land, while the Indians were dying off from disease. Where is the providence in that?Lindsey Shumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13536959819608584779noreply@blogger.com