tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post4961980850319433151..comments2024-03-28T10:44:30.518-06:00Comments on American Creation: John Quincy Adams used a law book in 1825Brad Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17669677047039491864noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-10844153452923037902021-04-04T03:24:28.604-06:002021-04-04T03:24:28.604-06:00What’s lost in the shuffle is that most of these s...<i>What’s lost in the shuffle is that most of these state administered religious tests were, in the course of time, taken off the books, & the others states like N.C., when finally put to the test, the Supreme Court ruled unenforceable.</i><br /><br />Only because of the 14th Amendment [ratified 1868]--equal protection under the laws for INDIVIDUALS. Under the original Constitution and First Amendment, no problem. Religion was left to the states, to do as they will--even establish an official state church!<br /><br />THAT'S what's lost in the shuffle these days.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-59384385169140568732021-03-21T16:57:30.586-06:002021-03-21T16:57:30.586-06:00What’s lost in the shuffle is that most of these s...What’s lost in the shuffle is that most of these state administered religious tests were, in the course of time, taken off the books, & the others states like N.C., when finally put to the test, the Supreme Court ruled <a href="https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/north-carolina-atheist-unworthy-of-holding-office-political-foes-say" rel="nofollow">unenforceable</a>.<br /><br />ArtVI.C3.1.1 Oath of Office Requirement -The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.<br /><br />Early on, once again in N.C, the <a href="https://ssrn.com/abstract=3498217" rel="nofollow">case of Henry Jacob (Nov. 1809)</a> illustrates the tension that existed between a religious test for office & the extent to which it could be enforced.Ray Sollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07950061062767093373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-3761293271775030772021-03-12T18:00:27.931-07:002021-03-12T18:00:27.931-07:00So both claims were false. The hagiography sword c...So both claims were false. The hagiography sword cuts both ways. Well done as usual, Ray. I have noticed that where 19th century hagiography tended to make the founders more religious than they probably were, today's secularists often cheat in the other direction.<br /><br />For instance, while the AP article rightly notes that religious tests were banned for <i>federal</i> office, lost in the shuffle is that they were quite common [and constitutional!] on the state level.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-79943129489383747122021-03-04T06:07:50.350-07:002021-03-04T06:07:50.350-07:00Bonus:
March 18, 1905 - The Saturday Evening Post,...Bonus:<br />March 18, 1905 - <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Saturday_Evening_Post/M1owAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=clerk%20bible" rel="nofollow">The Saturday Evening Post, pg 15, The President's Bible</a><br />And the Important Part It Has Played in Many Historic Inaugurations by Robert Martin Larner<br /><br />A taste:<br /> PRESIDENT [Theodore] ROOSEVELT followed the usual custom in taking the oath of office by being sworn in upon a Bible supplied by the Clerk of the Supreme Court.<br />Next in importance to taking of the prescribed oath is the selection of the Bible to be used in the ceremony. When the subject was brought to the attention of President Roosevelt he inquired about the precedents on the subject. He was informed that is customary for the Clerk of the Supreme Court to furnish the Bible, and after the ceremony for the Clerk of the Court to furnish the Bible, and after the ceremony to deliver the sacred book to the President’s wife or some other near relative. President Roosevelt said he would follow the usual course, and accordingly he was sworn in on a small Bible, known in religious circles as “teacher’s size.” It is bound in red morocco with gilt edges, and is almost the dimensions of the Congressional Directory.<br />Dot – dot – dot.Ray Sollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07950061062767093373noreply@blogger.com