tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post3101072649729239362..comments2024-03-28T10:44:30.518-06:00Comments on American Creation: Noble PagansBrad Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17669677047039491864noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-47585320559078483892008-10-27T16:27:00.000-06:002008-10-27T16:27:00.000-06:00True, the Romans in particular were of interest an...True, the Romans in particular were of interest and of inspiration in the new American republic, but that Cincinnatus was a pagan means no more than Algernon Sidney being a Christian.<BR/><BR/>Interesting here---Sidney credits the "Schoolmen" [Catholic theologian/philosophers following Aquinas] with discerning the "natural" order of liberty, even though they are to be denied any credit for it.<BR/><BR/>http://www.constitution.org/as/dcg_102.htm<BR/><BR/>Like Jefferson, Sidney here claims <I>anything but</I> Christianity---specifically the papists---is responsible for the philosophical grounds for liberty, but this is protesting too much. Had the Schoolmen [Suarez in particular] been so uninfluential, Sidney could simply have skipped over them instead of taking such pains to deny them.<BR/><BR/>More on Sir Robert Filmer's defense of the divine right of kings when time permits.Tom Van Dykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121072404143877596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-89094422781678149132008-10-27T14:29:00.000-06:002008-10-27T14:29:00.000-06:00.Mistake, it wasn't Schaeffer's wife, it was Carl ....<BR/>Mistake, it wasn't Schaeffer's wife, it was Carl McIntrye who was heavily influenced by Schaeffer. Sorry about that.<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-17300100947466782622008-10-27T07:46:00.000-06:002008-10-27T07:46:00.000-06:00.Now, we're getting into some interesting territor....<BR/>Now, we're getting into some interesting territory with this video. <BR/>.<BR/>The idea of any <I>particularist</I> view of reality in contrast to what is available to us through the unfolding of history hits directly at the heart of what neo-conservatism is all about. And, it certainly deals with the ongoing argument regarding America as a Christian nation. It would be the neo-conservatives that argue it is which might be a little devious on their part.<BR/>.<BR/>BTW, I've got Frankie Schaeffer's book around here some place. I read it last winter. It's about his relationship with his father, Francis. My sister was acquainted with Francis' wife who stayed with them in S.A. on occasions if I'm not mistaken. I'll have to check it out with her.<BR/>.Phil Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06756814849309388483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-37798446450038648712008-10-27T01:23:00.000-06:002008-10-27T01:23:00.000-06:00From what I've read of Washington's belief when it...From what I've read of Washington's belief when it comes to his "dithering on the afterlife" he appears to have been comfortable with a generalized belief in the transmigration of the soul. <BR/><BR/>Here's part of an entry from Wikipedia: <I>The idea of transmigration of soul comes from the ancient Greeks. In transmigration after death, the soul or, shade of a living human, while in Hades, or underworld, drinks from the river Lethe and loses all past memories of their previous life and then morphs (or transmigrates) into another [intelligent, not necessarily] human form and is reborn. <B>It was thought the soul had been, and always would be, eternal. It had no beginning or end.</B></I><BR/><BR/>When a person looks at what Jesus had to say on the subject, he too appears to have relied on the same concept: "[W]hen they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels[stars] which are in heaven"(Mk 12:25)... "He [God] is not God of the dead, but the God of the living (Mk 12:27)"Ray Sollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07950061062767093373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1237087217187172116.post-21083372842866352872008-10-26T14:17:00.000-06:002008-10-26T14:17:00.000-06:00Nice post, Jon. I loved the video. I was actuall...Nice post, Jon. I loved the video. I was actually thinking about bringing up the Society of the Cincinnati. It is a fascinating group to learn about. <BR/><BR/>When you do get around to publishing a book, don't forget about the rest of us, Ok?Brad Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17669677047039491864noreply@blogger.com